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"God hasn't stopped giving faith - He is still imparting faith to you. That is the reason your spirit man on the inside of you is always full of faith. It is not your spirit man that is full of doubt and unbelief - it is your mind, your will, and your emotions. Your spirit man will believe. When you hear somebody preach under the anointing or you read something in the Word, something on the inside of you just says, 'Yes! Yes! Yes' Your spirit man believes whatever God says. Your spirit man will believe whatever God says...Your spirit man can take your mind's limits off of God."
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Equality, Submission, And The Role Of Women
Posted on Monday, April 28 @ 17:05:28 PDT by Virgil |
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kent submitted: "The Bible teaches that both men and women are created in the image of God (Genesis 1:27), that is, both men and women are equal bearers of the divine image. This means that both men and women are equally human beings. Consequently, women are not inferior members of the human race and are not to be counted as second-class citizens.
Furthermore, women are not second-class citizens of the kingdom of God either (Galatians 3:28). They are full members of the church of Christ (viz., the universal body of the saved) with access to all the spiritual rights and benefits of such membership. In other words, one cannot be kept from the saving blood of Jesus Christ by his or her nationality (“neither Jew nor Gentile”), status in society (“neither slave nor free”), or gender (“neither male nor female”). All human beings are equal in that they can become “children” and “heirs of God” through faith in Christ Jesus (Galatians 4:7). Consequently, the context of Galatians 3:28 deals with who can become a Christian and on what basis, not with male/female roles.
It is, therefore, unfortunate that so-called “Biblical feminists” have pounced on Galatians 3:28 as the crux around which all Scripture must be interpreted. Some have even called this passage the “Magna Carta” of all humanity. They have claimed it teaches that it is God's desire to see all sex roles completely obliterated in the family, church, and society. Equality, they have falsely reasoned, means getting rid of all role distinctions. “Equality and subordination are contradictions!,” they claim. They feel that “true egalitarianism (equality) must be characterized by what sociologists call role-interchangeability.” They argue that any subordination is “psychologically unhealthy” and “carnal.”
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Re: Equality, Submission, And The Role Of Women (Score: 1)
 by MaChis on Monday, April 28 @ 19:12:49 PDT
(User Info | Send a Message) | I must say this a very prejudicial interpretation of the bible. In the TORAH Judges 4 there is a woman ruling over all Israel including her husband. The problem with a skewed view every time you see husband you see a male and wife you see a female. The TORAH in Hosea uses husband for YHWH and wife for Israel.
Paul being well studied in the TORAH used similar methods in 1 Timothy when he used Adam for the old covenant and Eve for the new covenant. It may be time to consider that Paul used terms such husband and wife or man and woman through out his letters not as gender but as how to interact between old, new and others.
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Re: Paul's commentary on the image of God ... (Score: 1)
by RiversOfEden4 on Tuesday, April 29 @ 09:57:41 PDT
(User Info | Send a Message) | I disagree with the author's assertion that "both men and women are created in the image of God". The author cits Genesis 1:27 in the article, but fails to account for New Testament commentary on the same text.
For example, in the Apostle Paul's own commentary on the "image of God" found in 1 Corinthians 11:7-10, it seems evident that he perceived that only the "male" was created in the image of God, whereas the female was the glory of the male.
I think this is the implication of the Apostle's exhortation to the churches regarding "covering the head." Paul instructs the male NOT to cover his head while praying and prophesying (11:4, 7) whereas he instructs the female to be sure that her hair is covering her head while praying and prophesying (11:5-6, 10, 15).
In particular, Paul states that "a male ought not to have his head covered, SINCE HE IS THE IMAGE AND GLORY OF GOD" (11:7). Thus, the purpose of NOT covering the head was on account of the male bearing "the image and glory of God."
On the other hand, the opposite instruction to the female requring her to have her head covered implies that she is not bearing the image and glory of God. Paul further makes the distinction between the "image and glory of God" for the male (11:7a), and the "glory of the male" for the female (11:7b).
I also think this commentary is consistent with the numerous other theological and practical instructions that were given to the women in order to limit their role and authority in the churches (1 Corinthians 14:33-34, 1 Timothy 2:5-9, 1 Peter 3:6-8, etc). |
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Re: Equality, Submission, And The Role Of Women (Score: 1)
by Fizzbin on Tuesday, April 29 @ 10:16:48 PDT
(User Info | Send a Message) | The demand for equality is inherently vainity. What is the point of equality? To have as much as everyone else? As much stuff, or choices? That's a love of money, right there. That's the root of sin, to strive for what others have. COVETTING!
We are all equal, spiritually, in that we can all commune with God. We are not all equal physically, just because we're born different. Men and women are different, therefore not the same, therefore not equal.
I think it's hilarious that our modern American culture claims to be about diversity, UNLESS it has to do with gender, bcause they must be treated the SAME...and by same, they mean women must receive advantages that raise them up to the mens' standards, which ironically, proves them wrong by action. It's all politics, and until we focus on HOW we are all the same, we'll never get over how we're all different, and there will never be an acceptable common ground.
Jesus died for ALL, therefore we are all equal where it matters. All else is vanity. |
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Re: Equality, Submission, And The Role Of Women (Score: 1)
by tom-g on Tuesday, April 29 @ 19:25:38 PDT
(User Info | Send a Message) | Hey everyone,
What's with all this useless debate. Genesis demonstrates very clearly that men are nothing but hen pecked wimps. The serpent beguiled Eve not Adam. Wimp Adam only ate because his wife commanded him to. "Adam was not deceived, but woman being deceived was in the transgression."
So, the story of the ages is not that Adam's sin caused the fall, it is that Adam was more afraid of his wife than he was of God, and so it has been ever since. God might say one thing and we are to do it unless it contradicts what our wife has said, and not a man alive has the nerve to go against something his wife has ordered. The consequences for upsetting your wife in the here and now are too severe.
Tom |
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