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Preterism: Recent Developments in the Eschatological Debate
Posted on Saturday, January 26 @ 06:42:09 PST by Virgil |
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Kenneth L. Gentry, Jr., Th.D.
Eschatology is so often abused today that it has become a source of positive embarrassment to the integrity of the Christian faith and biblical Christianity. Two insightful books documenting this dismal state-of-affairs are: Dwight Wilson’s Armageddon Now and Francis Gumerlock’s The Day and the Hour. A steady flow of recalculated cries for the end perennially ring out from the hollow shelves of Christian trinket stores. Even the smooth entering of a new millennium has not stalled the flow of the dispensational Chicken Littles. It would seem that all one needs in order to be a “prophecy expert” today is either a steady supply of Dapper Dan and access to television air time, or a computer graphics program and a money-hungry publisher. No new developments here!
Yet, despite such abuse eschatology remains a vitally important aspect of biblical revelation. Indeed, we should consider eschatology as the whole movement of biblical revelation than simply an individual locus of systematic theology. As Walter Dumbrell has keenly noted: the entire flow of Scripture progresses “from creation to new creation by means of divine redemptive interventions.” Eschatology is the message of all Scripture, the story of the outworking of redemption. Hence, a careful study of eschatological developments within evangelical theology is an important task for the student of Holy Writ.
Background
In this article I will mention three recent developments in the eschatological debate. I chose these for two reasons: they directly impact the Chalcedon Report audience; and they are making a significant impact in broader evangelical circles. In the mid-1990s Darrell L. Bock and C. Marvin Pate, two editors involved in Zondervan’s CounterPoints series, approached me about these three matters, which are: (1) The radical transformations within dispensationalism; (2) the remarkable resurgence of postmillennialism; and (3) the re-emergence of orthodox preterism.
When Darrell Bock (then of Dallas Theological Seminary) called me in 1994 about joining with him in producing Three Views on the Millennium and Beyond (1999), he particularly mentioned his interest in distinguishing this new work from Clouse’s The Meaning of the Millennium (1977), now two decades old. He noted that it was now quite dated. Not only were three of the four authors deceased (Ladd, Boettner, and Hoeksema), but the eschatological landscape had undergone fundamental changes (except for amillennialism, which is so bland and general as to be asking of prophecy: “Hey, bro! Wha’s happnin?”). Bock surprised me when he noted that neither classic dispensationalism nor historic premillennialism would be included (as in Clouse’s work) — due to the rising prominence of progressive dispensationalism. Furthermore, he requested that I present the re-invigorated postmillennial view which included theonomy and preterism.
Progressive dispensationalist Marvin Pate (of Moody Bible Institute) first called me in 1996 to see if I would be interested in contributing to Four Views on the Book of Revelation. He specifically expressed his appreciation for my preterist writings, noting that they had influenced him in developing his own understanding of the Olivet Discourse and the Book of Revelation. His Doomsday Delusions favorably cited some of my works. Furthermore, he commented that the Four Views book would present two dispensational views of Revelation: classic dispensationalism and progressive dispensationalism, noting that they fundamentally differ in their analysis of Revelation, the capstone of biblical prophecy. Gone were the days of classic dispensational hegemony. Thus, progressive dispensationalism was asserting itself in the market place of ideas, and beginning to shake up the old line dispensational establishment. And orthodox preterism was beginning both to gain a hearing and to be granted a seat at the table. No longer was the decked stacked against it.
These remarkable episodes in my own experience suggest to me the significance of the three matters I have chosen to highlight in this article.
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Re: Recent Developments in the Eschatological Debate (Score: 1)
by Virgil on Saturday, January 26 @ 06:54:47 PST (User Info | Send a Message) | Unfortunately, a distortion of preterism is currently gaining advocacy — a view variously designated as “hyper-preterism” (Gentry), “Hymenaenism” (Sandlin), or “pantelism” (Jonathan Seriah).
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Re: Recent Developments in the Eschatological Debate (Score: 1)
by mazuur on Saturday, January 26 @ 07:50:35 PST (User Info | Send a Message) | " This view is not supported by any creed or any council of the Church in history."
This gets me. Of course Jesus' teachings weren't supported by any living soul on earth, yet....
Notice also the appeal to "council", "creed". Tell me creeds aren't harmful. As soon as they are written they are etched in stone and become every bit as powerful as the Scriptures. Men give lip service to them as being "infallible" yet in reality they dictate mens theological standings and defense.
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Re: Recent Developments in the Eschatological Debate (Score: 1)
by Starlight on Saturday, January 26 @ 07:52:27 PST (User Info | Send a Message) | Gentry is at it again and his allegiance to Creeds and Traditional orthodoxy are driving his rampage. When one has to resort to logic being based upon worshiping at the idols of tradition you get people like Gentry. His hatred of churches of Christ and the independent nature of our movement which was birthed in the American ideas of freedom and independence illustrate how tied this gentleman is to the old European model of theocracy. I would not be surprised if he was inclined to a theocratic government for the United States. This is where Creedal thinking leads to folks.
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“Unfortunately, a distortion of preterism is currently gaining advocacy… A cult-like enthusiasm fuels this unorthodox movement, which teaches that the total complex of end time events transpired in the first-century:…This view is not supported by any creed or any council of the Church in history.”
“The origins of this modern movement arise from and are fueled by many Christians either presently or previously within the church of Christ sect (e.g., Max King, Tim King, Ed Stevens, and others).”
“The theological structure of the movement appears to be continually mutating. Of course, such should be expected when the position decries creedal moorings and rejoices in being adrift on a sea of untrained theologues.”
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Norm
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Re: Recent Developments in the Eschatological Debate (Score: 1)
by chrisliv on Saturday, January 26 @ 10:30:27 PST (User Info | Send a Message) | Yeah,
Kenneth Gentry seems to be a classic Reconstructionist and Dominion Theology adherent, which necessarily requires some degree of a Futurist eschatology, since Reconstructionists are not currently exercising Dominion and Power over others within the worldly, State Apparatus.
Sadly, Reconstructionism is the same as Statist Fascism, except with Torah added to hostile State Statutes.
Its been done before, and is just an updated form of state-incorporated, Constantine-style Christianity, in which the Church went from being the persecuted, to being the persecutors.
Too bad, because Gentry is a bright guy who's book on Revelation reads like a true Preterist example. It's kind of strange how schizophrenic Gentry is about the plain meaning of Preterism.
I don't think Preterists need to try too hard, to woo the small number of dead-ender Reconstructionists who call themselves "orthodox preterists", because the Dispensationalists will be far more receptive to real Preterism, since its right under their noses, and nobody in their ranks told them about it, at least in a fair way. But, once they are told about what happened in 70 AD, and how the Olivet Discourse was necessarily fulfilled at that time, they'll begin to see the full Preterist position throughout the NT and the OT.
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