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Preterism: Music, Worship and Creation in the Church of God
Posted on Wednesday, June 13 @ 07:47:31 PDT by John |
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by Ward Fenley
Music in the church is a much discussed and much debated subject, and often can cause great division because people have such great convictions about what music is correct in the church. Discussion about the theology of certain songs is often a main topic. From the fulfilled perspective, some rework old hymns to make the hymns fit their eschatology. They often change the fourth verse of many hymns. Some traditionalists oppose this. However, theology is important. Yet when I am in a fellowship where the perspective on eschatology is different than mine, and they start singing the futuristic fourth verse, I still appreciate the music and think, "Hey, that already happened to me. Thank God." And thus, with a pure conscience I may worship.
When I sing the Psalms I usually keep them as is. I read them as is, so why not sing them as is and simply know in my heart those things are fulfilled in Christ? After all, I read hundreds of prophecies in the major and minor prophets as is, but get amazing satisfaction out of merely thinking about the reality that they are fulfilled in Christ.
And, while we are on the subject:
I have no problem singing songs which continue a repeated phrase of biblical significance. One Psalm repeats "For His mercy endures forever" over and over again. And at the same time I think there is a reason when God does that, if you know what I mean. It's basically God saying, "Don't forget my mercy."
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Re: Music, Worship and Creation in the Church of God (Score: 1)
 by tabernacle on Wednesday, June 13 @ 08:43:59 PDT
(User Info | Send a Message) | “…and thus, with a pure conscience I may worship...
it seems fitting that we who dwell in the tabernacles of the most high should be those who appreciate these things most, as we are those who have had our eyes enlightened in the presence of Messiah to the understanding of these things...” -wow, thanks for these words!!! The greatest Awakening/resurrection of the dead (from being dead spiritually - in our sins - to becoming alive in the Spirit - having had our consciences wiped clean) has begun…there’s can be no going back, life is being breathed in to the dry bones, just don’t show them the design etc. of the temple, not!!! Life is here on Planet Preterist, thank God…
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Re: Music, Worship and Creation in the Church of God (Score: 1)
by SuperSoulFighter on Thursday, June 14 @ 12:38:46 PDT
(User Info | Send a Message) | Good stuff, Ward! I like your generous spirit and appreciation for elegant music celebrating the art and joy of life. As a musician myself (eight years of classical piano and fifteen years teaching and performing both classical and pop/blues piano), I can relate to the beauty and wonder of good music. It seems to evoke a spiritual, subliminal response in the human mind and heart.
Personally, I enjoy everything from Biblically sound worship music to Christian blues/rock (like the music of Glen Kaiser, Darrell Mansfield, REZ, etc.). I even enjoy the blazing, brutal honesty (from a secular perspective) of bands like Audioslave, Soundgarden (a particular favorite of mine), Metallica, etc. Strangely enough, I sing snatches of one song in particular, almost every day. I don't know why it sank into subconscious to that degree, but it did. It's not even one of my favorite songs necessarily, but the words do have a profound relevance to some of my life experience. It's the song "Outshined", by Soundgarden. I just catch myself singing parts of it almost every day.
Music is about joy, wonder and life's complexities. It's about celebrating wisdom, truth, mistakes, failures and the general frailty/fallibility of the eternal soul (in this realm). Generally, I find modern music to be a little more "in tune" with the modern spirit and heart, as it's heavy emphasis on rhythm and repetitive musical phrases seems to harmonize with the mechanistic, industrial (and post-industrial) society we are immersed in, in the West. The throbbing of machinery (such as our vehicles) pulses through our lives on a daily basis, and the reassurance that brings as we find ourselves reliant upon these things to do much of our labor for us is reflected in the music we find ourselves drawn to. That's one theory of mine anyway.
The other Christian artists I enjoy include Phil Keaggy, Charlie Pea*****, Michael W. Smith, Mike Roe and the 77s, Guardian, Tony Palacios...
We do need emerging Full Pret musicians to step to the forefront a little more, musically. I, personally, have a really hard time singing anything contradictory to the Truth (within the fulfilled perspective). When I'm surrounded by futurists singing futurism doctrine, believing that God is pleased with their expressions of supposed Truth - I really can't join in with them (even though I know most of the hymns as well as anyone). I prefer to stand silent or leave. I just can't "fellowship" with darkness and falsehood anymore. But that's where I'm coming from at present.
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