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News: Biblical battle of creation groups
Posted on Sunday, June 10 @ 14:50:36 PDT by Virgil |
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An unholy war has erupted between a star of the US evangelical movement and his Australian flock, with claims of bullying and unbiblical behaviour. Former NSW chief magistrate Clarrie Briese, who nearly brought down former High Court judge Lionel Murphy, has led a confidential investigation into the international dispute being fought out among the international arms of "creationist" ministries.
A week after former Queensland science teacher Ken Ham opened the world's first Creation Museum - a $33 million facility in Petersburg, Kentucky - he is being sued by the Australian evangelical organisation he helped to set up and which served as a springboard for his leap into the US evangelical movement two decades ago.
Mr Ham is one of the leading lights of the creationist movement, arguing against evolutionary science with claims the world is only 6000 years old, was created in six days by God and that dinosaurs walked the planet alongside humans.
The 55-year-old father of five is heard every day on more than 1000 radio stations across the US, is a regular on the Christian speaking circuit and has set up arms of his organisation in Britain and Canada.
The Brisbane-based Creation Ministries International has filed a lawsuit in Queensland's Supreme Court against Mr Ham and his Kentucky-based Answers in Genesis ministry seeking damages and accusing him of deceptive conduct in his dealings with the Australian organisation.
The suit focuses on a dispute over the Australian organisation's production of a creationist magazine, sold in the US to more than 35,000 subscribers, and has led to revelations about the three-year battle between the two ministries.
A 40-page report, written by Mr Briese and obtained by The Australian, reveals a bitter power struggle across the Pacific that began with a challenge to the power Mr Ham allegedly wielded over the ministries.
Mr Briese, a Christian, exposed one of Australia's most contentious legal scandals when he told a Senate committee inquiry in 1984 that Murphy had asked him to influence the trial of Sydney solicitor Morgan Ryan, with the words, "What about my little mate?". Murphy was convicted of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice before being cleared on a retrial.
A magistrate between 1982 and 90, Mr Briese found in his report that Mr Ham and his US organisation had launched a campaign after his leadership was challenged by his US deputy, Brandon Vallorani, who was then sacked, and Australian leader Carl Wieland, who was later allegedly the subject of innuendo about his private life.
According to Mr Briese's report, the campaign last year also involved John Mackay, a former associate of Mr Ham in Queensland, who was excommunicated in the 1980s after making allegations of witchcraft and necrophilia against a fellow member of the ministry.
The joint Australian-US push for reforms came amid concerns over Mr Ham's domination of the ministries, the amount of money being spent on his fellow executives and a shift away from delivering the creationist message to raising donations.
In his report, Mr Briese said Mr Ham and the US organisation responded with sackings, bullying and, in some instances, "unbiblical/unethical/unlawful behaviour" towards the Australian ministry that he suspected was intended to send it into bankruptcy.
"The report recommends that if CMI is to fulfil its fiduciary responsibilities to protect and safeguard the Australian ministry, CMI, and have a recalcitrant Answers in Genesis-USA brought to account for the serious wrongs it has committed," he said, "CMI has no option left except to bring AiG-USA before the secular courts, the 'powers that be ordained by God' under Romans 13."
Dr Wieland declined to comment yesterday and Mr Ham could not be reached.
http://theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21843706-2702,00.html?from=public_rss
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Re: Biblical battle of creation groups (Score: 1)
by Virgil on Sunday, June 10 @ 18:00:20 PDT (User Info | Send a Message) | | We went to the Creation Museum yesterday - I'll do a blog on the visit soon - but I believe this lawsuit may bring about some interesting revelations about Answers in Genesis and the leadership. I certainly was not aware that Brandon Vallorani was "sacked" from AiG. |
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Re: Biblical battle of creation groups (Score: 1)
by tom-g on Sunday, June 17 @ 08:38:34 PDT (User Info | Send a Message) | Hey Norm,
Just as a follow up on my last reply to you. In a comment made in reply to me, JL on Thursday said this:
"There are no YEC books on Genesis except by "literal futurists." We've made no false characterization of YEC authors. We've plainly and clearly argued that YEC is based on literal futurism and is inconsistent with preterism."
Just thought I'd point that out so you'd not think I was misstating JL's position.
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Tom |
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Re: Biblical battle of creation groups (Score: 1)
by Starlight on Monday, June 18 @ 10:49:26 PDT (User Info | Send a Message) | Tom
Thanks, you just clarified what we have all been wondering.
You have your own pet interpretation of the language and render it according to your own assumptions.
Welcome to the game.
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Re: Biblical battle of creation groups (Score: 1)
by tom-g on Saturday, June 23 @ 03:27:04 PDT (User Info | Send a Message) | Thanks JL,
I am trying to formulate "erets" into a proposition. Using your information which would you agree is true?
1.) Every use of erets does have a global connotation (A)
2.) No use of erets has a global connotation (E)
3.) some use of erets does have a global connotation (I)
4.) Some use of erets does not have a global connotation (O)
For sake of clarity would you agree to the designation of quantity as universal for global and particular for regional? And for quality the terms affirmative and negative?
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