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Preterism: The Lord's prayer and its eschatological context
Posted on Thursday, March 08 @ 09:11:36 PST by Virgil

Preterism by Andrew Perriman
Here is a good example of the sort of tight corner that a historical reading of New Testament eschatology can get us into. The Lord’s prayer is a central element in our formal and informal liturgies. We assume that it is timeless: we imagine that we pray it in the same way and for the same reasons that the first disciples prayed it. For example, I have been reading Scott McKnight’s The Jesus Creed. He regards the prayer as fundamentally an expression of Jesus’ core creed: to love God and to love others. This is an excellent thing to express, but I fear that it really misses the point of the prayer. McKnight recognizes that it is Jesus’ version of the Kaddish but he appears to have nothing to say about the significance of the obvious eschatological orientation of this Jewish prayer. There are numerous other ways in which the prayer is tied to - and potentially confined to - a narrative framework, but these are obscured by the traditional liturgical use of the prayer.

The dilemma, therefore, is this: How should we pray Jesus’ eschatological prayer in a post-eschatological context? Of course, that is my particular dilemma - not everyone will be bothered by it! But the exegetical details are worth considering, and I would argue that there are constructive ways of keeping the prayer central to our worship that do not compromise its narrative integrity.

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Re: The Lord's prayer and its eschatological context (Score: 1)
by Starlight on Thursday, March 08 @ 12:29:51 PST
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Weren’t those Disciples of Christ living in the presence of the kingdom already?

Luke 17: 20 Now having been questioned by the Pharisees as to when the kingdom of God was coming, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed; 21 nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or, 'There it is!' FOR BEHOLD, THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS IN YOUR MIDST."

If this was so then “Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.” should be prayed in earnestness for the kingdom to continue to permeate the hearts of men as it was being prayed for then as it is obvious that the Kingdom has not permeated all men’s hearts today either.

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Re: The Lord's prayer and its eschatological context (Score: 1)
by DavidF on Thursday, March 08 @ 18:41:31 PST
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A New Covenant Prayer

Our Eternal Father, who is in the heavens - and in us your people -
Your Name, character and essence is perfectly pure.

Thank you for bringing your kingdom into our lives and expressing your will on the earth as it is in heaven.

Thank you for your people. Give us this day our daily bread.

Help us to be merciful to each other just as you have been merciful to us.

Lead us in your law and your grace, and thank you for delivering us from temptation and evil.

For Thine is the kingdom, Thine is the power, and Thine is the glory forever. Let it be firmly established.



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