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Preterism: The Nature of the Second Coming
Posted on Monday, March 05 @ 13:51:12 PST by John |
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Jimmy Akin, a Catholic blogger recently posted an e-mail he received from one of his readers: "For four or five years now my views have been solidly of the "full preterist" persuasion (heretical - yes, I know). Lately I've distanced myself somewhat from these views...What does it mean to confess with the Catholic Church that Christ will return? Must it mean that I picture Him coming bodily on a cloud and doing certain things (I think a lot of Protestants have Him throwing fireballs at people)?" Check out Jimmy's response and some of the comments following!
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Re: The Nature of the Second Coming (Score: 1)
 by Virgil on Monday, March 05 @ 14:01:13 PST
(User Info | Send a Message) | The most obvious question that comes to my mind is "Why would Preterism be heretical within the Catholic Church?" I am ignorant when it comes to the church's declarations of heresy, but maybe one of our Catholic brothers can point out when the Vatican has condemned Preterism as heresy?
I am asking because within the Eastern Orthodox Church, Preterism is not condemned as heresy and believers have quite a bit of freedom when it comes down to eschatological passages; not to mention the very preteristic leanings of fathers like Eusebius and others which the Church does not condemn and actually accepts quite readily. |
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Re: The Nature of the Second Coming (Score: 2, Informative)
 by Parker on Monday, March 05 @ 16:29:29 PST
(User Info | Send a Message) | Hi Virgil. I found Akin's reply to be helpful, from the Catholic perspective.
Here are some of my thoughts on this issue as it relates to the Catholic Church. For Catholics, a trial has to take place by the Church. We do not have a "me-n-my-bible-alone" method of resolving serious disputes/controversies. A council/trial on the matter is yet future, and I have no idea when a controversy will arise that forces the issue to be clarified and better defined.
Whenever that trial takes place, I suspect that a whole lot of liberty will continue to exist on the issue of eschatology and that AD 70 will receive very strong emphasis (as in Eusebius, Augustine, Hahn). However, *general* ideas of future comings, judgments, etc. are well established within the RCC. So, in my humble opinion, whenever that council takes place, something of a preterist-idealist model will emerge that retains the vitality of AD 70 and yet embraces a pattern of God's rule in this world that did not end back in the first century.
Personally, I think that our resurrection will be understood as a multi-faceted experience of Christ's resurrection, including: baptism; the presence of Christ's eternal life in us in this world; the opening of Heaven and evacuation of Hades; the blessings of eternal life for us in the afterlife; other future experiences of Christ's eternal glory. We're already on that track.
So, in short, I think we will clarify our eschatology along the lines of a sort of preterist-idealist blend. Based on everything I know about Catholic eschatology, I think that is a realistic possible outcome. I would not expect, however, that such a council would produce specific details of future events. The future would remain generalized in nature yet mindful of the past patterns of God's rule. That's my .02. |
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