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I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is…The biggest one in the whole Bible is God…I mean, He lost His top-ranking, most anointed angel; the first man He ever created; the first woman He ever created; the whole earth and all the fullness therein; a third of the angels, at least - that's a big loss, man…. -- Kenneth Copeland, Praise-a-thon on Praise The Lord, April 1988 |
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by Virgil Vaduva Gary DeMar wrote an excellent article about the prophetic shift seen in Christianity today, but I believe that while Gary is pointing out some valid problems with Dispensationalism, he is also forcing us to ask what kind of hope is postmillennialism bringing to our lives? Postmillennialism still expects a random return of Christ, a physical return of Christ and a destructive return of Christ in which everything we work for will be wiped out and destroyed after which the bad guys will get theirs in an eternal torment in hell. So, how does changing the timing of the Parousia in relation to the millennium give us hope about a bright future for humanity where our actions really can make a difference, where we can improve the environment, work on issues of social justice, learn to make peace, and bring the world closer to Christ? Well, the answer is, it does not change anything! The most reasonable and hopeful solution for a bright future is that of a past fulfillment of the return of Christ. Past you say? Are you crazy?
If emerging Christianity is committed to tipping every sacred cow on the pasture and not leaving any stone unturned, it needs to also seriously reconsider its eschatology in light of Scripture. As I have noted before, there is a noticeable shift, just as Gary observed, in both prophecy and the Christian take on important social issues which have been largely ignored for the past hundred years because of the imminent return of Christ. Younger Christians are wholesale rejecting Left Behind doctrine and are instead embracing more positive worldviews which enable them to have a confident view of the future and gives them the motivation to promote issues important to their generations: social equity, war and peace, nonviolence, environmentalism, etc.
This search for meaning on the part of emerging Christians is creating a problem for those who are not eschatologically inclined in that the motivation for the positive outcome is the driving factor in realizing the presence and manifestation of the Kingdom, the Presence (Parousia) of Christ and all the other societal improvements we strive for. At the opposite spectrum we have those of us subscribing to a fulfilled eschatology by seeing the terribly negative and terrifying events described in Revelation as being already fulfilled at the fall of the Jewish temple in A.D. 70. As a result we have the opposite problem in that we struggle to grasp the “what now” question and understand that although we know that the Kingdom is here, Christ’s Presence is real and the world is not burning in a fire any time soon, we still try to figure out what it all means and what it should lead to.
Both emerging Christians lacking a fulfilled eschatology and fulfilled eschatologists lacking the motivation of emerging Christians are finding a new common and exciting ground which helps us all to address the contemporaneous problems experienced today not just by the Church as a result of Left Behind-style eschatology, but also experienced by the world at large, a world looking to us for answers which are more than often lacking. This is why a pre- or post-millennial prophetic paradigm will not work and will continue to fail to provide the necessary confidence in a bright future and the motivation to better that future without the fear of any-moment-destruction coming in the form of Christ’s nuclear Second Coming.
Rarely something dramatic happens without the aid of a dramatic paradigm shift, and in this case our understanding of prophecy requires such a dramatic shift in our understanding of the timing and nature of the Parousia. After all, I have personally met Christians who did not attend College, went into deep financial trouble and debt and became socially and politically inactive as a result of their eschatological expectations: an imminent destruction is at hand, and nothing really matters after all.
A re-imaging of prophecy is necessary in order to offer those solutions we long for both as Preterists and as emerging Christians. Understanding that the return of Christ has already happened and that is not a random event, understanding that it was physically manifested in the destruction of the Jewish temple, and understanding that the destruction was very specific and very localized to Jerusalem in A.D. 70 should prompt us all to rethink how we relate to the world in which we live; it should prompt us to reconsider the solutions we offer to the world, regardless of what kind of problems we face.
So as postmodern Christians are looking for the eschatology to justify their pro-active faith and societal involvement, so are Preterists looking for the societal involvement and pro-active faith in which to manifest their eschatology. There is no better time than now for cow tipping and re-imaging of Prophecy into something that is both scriptural and also does not require long-term Valium prescriptions. I hope that we can all become partners into making God’s dreams for this world become a reality. I believe that eschatology is a big part of that dream, and becoming partners on this journey is one of the most exciting thing we can do as Christians.
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Re: Prophecy 2.0 (Score: 1)
by SuperSoulFighter on Wednesday, January 24 @ 22:05:12 PST (User Info | Send a Message) | Great response to Gary's post-millennial perspective, Virgil! Without being aggressively confrontational or belittling...as you have pointed out above, the simple truth is that all forms of futurism are demoralizing for the modern Christian and sap him/her of what should be the energizing elements of our faith. All forms of futurism are, fundamentally, false and (I don't use this term lightly or inaccurately) blasphemous. To teach and believe that God used language that was so deliberately deceptive that the First Century Christians lived under the firm (and yet supposedly false and misguided/mistaken) conviction that Christ's return would be within their lifetimes, is horrendous. Preachers and teachers who promote the eschatological doctrine of "imminency" are literally blaspheming the God of the Bible. Unintentionally, they are presenting God as incapable of arousing true worship, devotion and commitment apart from the imminent threat of the annihilation of our world at any moment, and the termination of human history on this planet. The "church" has taught for centuries that, on the basis of fear, the devotees and followers of Christ must surrender their lives to Him and His (post-70 AD) "church", lest they perish at any moment. Talk about living a schizophrenic lifestyle, eh, Virgil? On the one hand, a person must resist evil and wickedness and "stand fast" against the darkness, while on the other, that person must expect all such efforts to be vain and fruitless in the very near end, and that to hasten the growth of wickedness in the world is to hasten the return of Christ (not that the latter point is ever taught outright or preached as such).
When God spoke these words in Heb. 9:28, they were focussed on the expectations of First Century saints undergoing unimaginable persecutions, who anticipated the return of Christ more eagerly than any Christians who have ever lived since (including all persecuted Christians in Communist and Muslim countries). Here is what God told the First Century saints in the midst of their suffering, To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation. On the basis of that one text alone - how DARE any preacher or teacher (sincere or otherwise) within Churchianity proclaim, on behalf of God and His Word, that God failed to keep this promise to those First Century saints. THAT is blasphemy and I, for one, will not tolerate it. Even in an atmosphere of openness, acceptance, tolerance and grace - my blood will boil and righteous wrath will be manifested if anyone dares to promote the doctrine of "imminency" as an accurate expression of God's agenda and timeframe of prophetic fulfillment in my presence.
JM
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Re: Prophecy 2.0 (Score: 1)
by Windpressor (Giddi_one) on Thursday, January 25 @ 02:39:53 PST (User Info | Send a Message) | ***************
With all that can be claimed to have been received in the way of "kingdom", it looks like we have also been bequeathed a mix that includes a host of "sacred white elephant cows".
Tipping just does not seem to be adequate dispensation for such weighty ... pardon my metaphors.
white elephant: Definition and Much More from Answers.com
One thing worth learning from the AD70 destruction of the Temple cultus is that true faith is not about a "high maintenance" religiosity.
Matthew 11:29-30 (ESV)
"29Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light."
"Acts 15:8-11
8And God, who knows the heart, bore witness to them, by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us, 9and he made no distinction between us and them, having cleansed their hearts by faith. 10Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? 11But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will."
The feeling of relief and freedom from an onerous "burden" is a common theme of those posting at such sites as:
ExChristian.Net!
What does the pret perspective have to offer those who have "deconverted" and "unburdened" themselves from the "yoke"of their former beliefs such as the former minister Dan Barker, author of: Losing Faith In Faith: From Preacher To Atheist
I can't as yet see/concede where Sam and KNeb can be credited with a sufficiency of solution, but it looks like they have a considerable grasp of the significance of the problems --
From the prior article (A Prophetic Shift on the Horizon):
**The consistent answer (and the atheists never, rightly, tire of telling Christians this) is that you can't pick and choose your miracles.** [Sam]
**This is first and foremost an epistemological issue. Sam understands that. Clark understood it. Bertrand Russell understood it. The “new” atheists understand it.** [KNeb]
Heavy religion? Get real!
Why should one be sold on, even the minimal, bearing an "easy yoke" or "light burden" when none of either would purportedly be "easier" and "lighter".
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by demario on Thursday, January 25 @ 07:00:02 PST (User Info | Send a Message) | If David Chilton's perspective is correct about being blessed to a "thousand generations," and a generation is 40 years, then we are looking down a nearly 40,000 year road. We've got trouble in River City today, and you guys are complaining about something that will not take place, given some interpretations of Revelation 20, for another 40 millennia! Revelation 20 is an enigma to me, that's why I have only dealt with what the chapter does not say. Most early postmillennialists built their case for postmillennialism without reference to Revelation 20. I have followed their example. For example, John Owen builds his case for "postmillennialism" (a name given to the idea of the advance of Christ's kingdom) in 7 points without a reference to Rev. 20. A.A. Hodge follows a similar pattern, again, with no reference to Revelation 20. Revelation 20 is not descriptive of a millennium and should not be used to support ANY millennial position. Some of you may think you know how Revelation 20 should be interpreted, but nothing I've read is very convincing.
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