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[Larson is speaking to an alleged demon.] "Breathe in the Holy Spirit right now - I command you to breathe deeply, BREATHE DEEPLY, breathe the Holy Spirit! The angels of God make you breathe in the Holy Spirit!!"
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Re: Why ? (Score: 1)
 by Mick on Friday, January 19 @ 06:31:38 PST
(User Info | Send a Message) | | If Dispensationalism/futurism is not consistent with global flood and young earth and preterism is not, why can we not get rid of these views? |
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Re: Why Dispensationalists Can't Argue for a Young Earth and a Global Flood (Score: 1)
 by Starlight on Friday, January 19 @ 07:01:18 PST
(User Info | Send a Message) | Gary is touching upon what many of us have recognized as a problem from the futurist, but I believe he needs to be wary himself of his tendency toward an overly literalistic reading as I will examine later in this article. But now let’s look at one of his statements to start our examination of these interpretive problems.
“He believes that the interpretive methodology of dispensational premillennialism is inexorably linked to the way its advocates defend their position on creation. Ruse isn’t the first to point this out. I’ve been making the same claim for years. It’s about to catch up with young-earth/global flood creationsists.”
This is a prime example of the difficulties that we have with all the futurist whether it’s Dispensationalist or Partial Preterist futurist that also adhere to a global flood. It’s a complete absence of the recognition of the total theme of scriptures from Genesis to Revelation. Any time they run into a major contradictory scripture or issue to their scriptural worldview there is this tendency to explain away the problem by inventing new ways of interpreting scripture. We have seen this exact problem in Kurt Simmons latest article located at
( http://www.preteristarchive.com/Preterism/simmons-kurt_p_07_01.html ), which is the lack of a complete understanding of what the scriptures say in it’s proper context. Kurt’s proclamation in his article is that many of us Preterist are driven by a false assumption that we have derived from our “rational” reading of the scriptures. As an example let’s examine one of Kurt’s statements and see if we can determine if Kurt is susceptible to bringing his preconceived desires into the interpretation of scriptures.
“Another idea prevalent today, related to the idea of an essentially local eschaton, but which I deem equally mistaken, is the idea that the heavens and earth destroyed at Christ’s coming were the Old Covenant. There is no direct teaching in the New Testament setting forth this interpretation.”
Now an unforced reading of Hebrews starting in Chapter 8 and ending with Chapter 12 is a complete repudiation of Kurt’s above statement. Let’s view a few of the scriptures that reject Kurt’s premise.
(Heb 8:7 NIV) For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another
(Heb 8:8 NIV) But God found fault with the people and said : "The time is coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah
(Heb 8:13 NIV) By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.
(Heb 10:16 NIV) "This is the covenant I will make with them after that time, says the Lord. I will put my laws in their hearts, and I will write them on their minds."
(Heb 10:29 NIV) How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?
(Heb 10:30 NIV) For we know him who said, "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," and again, "The Lord will judge his people."
(Heb 12:18 NIV) You have not come to a mountain that can be touched and that is burning with fire; to darkness, gloom and storm;
(Heb 12:22 NIV) But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God.
(Heb 12:24 NIV) to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant,
(Heb 12:26 NIV) At that time his voice shook the earth, but now he has promised, "Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens."
(Heb 12:27 NIV) The words "once more" indicate the removing of what can be shaken--that is, created things--so that what cannot be shaken may remain.
(Heb 12:28 NIV) Therefore, since we are receiving a
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