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RCC and Sam's Comments (Score: 1)
 by Parker on Wednesday, December 27 @ 20:42:51 PST
(User Info | Send a Message) | Hi Sam and others.
Just wanted to point out, Sam, that you did not accurately represent the RCC position on the truth, scripture, and the Holy Spirit. So, for clarification, I want to make a comment or two.
First, the Catholic Church does not receive any new doctrines, whether through councils or papal decrees. There are no new revelations. The deposit of faith was made in the first century, through both the oral and written tradition (with the oral preceding the written, of course). The inspiration of the Holy Spirit in the Church today pertains to preserving that deposit of truth, not revealing new truths. This process is carried out through the means ordained of Christ and the apostles (councils and the apostolic bishopric).
The reason scripture is not the only source of doctrinal truth is because the teachings of Christ and the apostles were primarily passed on orally, not through writings. The Word of God from Christ was something first transmitted entirely apart from writing. Both the oral and written transmission of The Word are valid and binding on the believer. It is an extrabiblical protestant tradition to seek to limit the truth to only the written channel of communication--but there is no justification for such. Original Christianity was concerned with a Word of God that was passed on in the Church through both non-written and written communication working together. One example of this: we all cite scripture (as we should), but our knowledge of which writings are valid and authentic comes to us through the oral tradition, not the written tradition. We would have no NT canon of scripture without a dependable, inspired *oral tradition.* |
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"The Catholics are the only Church..." (Score: 1)
by PeytonLucy on Saturday, December 30 @ 08:38:27 PST
(User Info | Send a Message) | "I have to chuckle, Rich. The Catholics are the only Church that actually can trace their history to the actual churches of the apostles in century one."
I believe the Greek Orthodox Church would dispute this, as would other Eastern Orthodox churches. Tradition indicates that Peter was the head of the church in Antioch before being the first Bishop of Rome. Obviously Alexandria and Jerusalem have chains of succession too.
On the other hand, as Preterists we should concede that the reformers and subsequent Protestants didn't help anything by teaching that Roman Catholicism was to be identified with the Harlot and/or Beast in Revelation.
Oral tradition is always referenced via written sources. The Talmud records supposed oral tradition in written form. The Patristic writings in a far less substantial manner record events after Jesus' ministry. Very few teachings, debatably none, of Jesus can be traced outside of the New Testament text. What we have is large amounts of pseudapigraphical writings, most of which is false or absurd, or Patristic material, which also often suffers from a lack of authenticity (II Clement, about half of Ignatius' letters, etc.) I believe that traditions have a role like Josephus, Suetonius, Tacitus, etc. I am amused that Protestants will accept the reports of a Jewish priest but not Christian bishops.
Preterism eventually will need to sort out the sources. If we do this through the lens of the eschatology of the reformers we are repeating their errors. (I'm not Roman Catholic.)
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