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by Norman Voss The Star of Bethlehem has always been of interest to us, especially during this time of the season. It is an intriguing story and one very close to our hearts. It’s a story that we are endeared to from early on as small children hearing of the Christmas message from books, plays and film. But scripture reveals that there was a star signifying the Christ during this period. And we know from astronomers that around 2 or 3 BC. There was a significant orientation of the stars and they were not just ordinary stars to the Hebrews or even the Gentile world at the time.
I have listed excerpts from three web sites and also their links to the full information that these were derived from. I believe that this information may be helpful to us in understanding the possible background of the astronomical world that the Messiah came into.
I hope that everyone is enjoying a wonderful holiday and may the Lord Bless you and your families during this time of celebration of our Savior.
Matt 2:1 (NIV) After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem 2 and asked, "Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east and have come to worship him." 3 When King Herod heard this he was disturbed, and all Jerusalem with him. 4 When he had called together all the people's chief priests and teachers of the law, he asked them where the Christ was to be born. 5 "In Bethlehem in Judea," they replied, "for this is what the prophet has written: 6 "'But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, are by no means least among the rulers of Judah; for out of you will come a ruler who will be the shepherd of my people Israel.'" 7 Then Herod called the Magi secretly and found out from them the exact time the star had appeared.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077385/
The show started on the morning of June 12 in 3 B.C., when Venus could be sighted very close to Saturn in the eastern sky. Then there was a spectacular pairing of Venus and Jupiter on Aug. 12 in the constellation Leo, which ancient astrologers associated with the destiny of the Jews.
Between September of 3 B.C. and June of 2 B.C., Jupiter passed by the star Regulus in Leo, reversed itself and passed it again, then turned back and passed the star a third time. This was another remarkable event, since astrologers considered Jupiter the kingly planet and regarded Regulus as the “king star.”
The crowning touch came on June 17, when Jupiter seemed to approach so close to Venus that, without binoculars, they would have looked like a single star.
http://www.xanga.com/item.aspx?user=Anna&tab=weblogs&uid=31804344
The constellation Leo (Arieh, the lion) represents not only Messiah crushing the enemy, but also the Tribe of Judah and the House of Judah.
The star Regulus in the constellation Leo (Arieh) is the brightest star in that constellation and the chief or king star (the king star of Yehudah). All ancient civilizations recognized Regulus as the king star, the one and only king star in the zodiac. Regulus means kingly in Latin. The Arabic word regel means foot and is identical in meaning to the Aramaic word regla and the Hebrew word regel. Thus the brightest star in the constellation of Arieh, has the Biblical connotation of the foot, tying in with the "from between his feet," of Genesis 49:10 ("the sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be") represented by the king star, Regulus.
The planet Jupiter or Tzedeq in Hebrew is the chief or king planet of all the planets. Jupiter has long been recognized as a messianic star and associated with the Messiah. Tzedeq means righteousness. The Messiah who would come from David's genetic line was to be the righteous Branch, according to Jeremiah 23:5, who would reign as a king and execute righteousness. His name would be called the Lord our Righteousness (Jer. 23 5, 6 and Jer 33:15, 16). Thus Jupiter has characteristics that would associate it with the Messiah.
http://sciastro.net/portia/articles/thestar.htm
Just 33 days after the Jupiter/Venus “morning star” conjunction, on August 12, 3 BC, Jupiter came to within 19.8’ of Regulus. Regulus, the chief star in Leo, lay practically in the path of the Sun, and was therefore afforded the additional epithet of “Royal Star”. Here was the “King planet” now coming into contact with the “King Star”. AND in the Royal Constellation. If viewed in isolation to other astronomical occurrences this single event might not have been significant to astrologers, but combined with the other celestial displays of 3 to 2 BC, it soon took on increased symbolic meaning. This is because the first conjunction began a series of three meetings of Jupiter and Regulus that occurred in a precise sequential pattern. Jupiter first united with Regulus and then continued on its normal journey through the heavens. On December 1, 3 BC, Jupiter stopped its motion through the fixed stars and began its annual “retrograde” motion. In doing so, it once again headed toward Regulus. Then on February 17, 2 BC, the two were reunited, 51’ apart. Jupiter continued its retrograde motion another 40 days and then it reverted to its normal motion through the stars. Remarkably, this movement once again placed Jupiter into a third conjunction with Regulus on May 8, 2 BC. They were then 43.2’ apart.
To astrologers, it appeared as though the King Planet was circling over and around Regulus, the King Star, “homing in” on it and pointing out the significance of the King Star as it related to the King Planet.
This circular movement of Jupiter over Regulus would, in all probability, have signaled that a great king was then destined to appear.
This circling motion also provided another significant astrological observation. The zero line for beginning and ending the 360 degrees of the Zodiac was determined by some astrologers as existing between Cancer and Leo. This means that this motion effect of Jupiter circling around Regulus was happening in the heavens just east of the zero degree line for astrological measurements. It occurred at the beginning section of the astrological Zodiac in the view of some Gentile astrologers. This interpretation is similar to that designed by Moses; the Biblical Zodiac designed by Moses also began with the royal sign of Leo, but its zero degree line was located in the middle of the constellation, not at its beginning.
Whatever the case, these indications would unquestionably have shown the people of that era that a great king or ruler was then being introduced, to the people of the world.
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Norman Voss is a columnist for PlanetPreterist.com. Norm is a graduate of Oklahoma Christian University and is the owner of New Dimensions Computing a computer and network servicing company. His ministry is presently serving as a Pastoral Elder for his church and as an assistant chaplain with the Texas Prison system.
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Re: The Star of Bethlehem (Score: 1)
by MiddleKnowledge on Monday, December 25 @ 09:39:28 PST (User Info | Send a Message) | Norm,
Great article.
I think this is a powerful demonstration of how true science and theology are at their best when they are friends, not enemies.
The astronomy provides a powerful confirmation to the biblical record. The biblical record also provides a powerful confirmation of modern astronomy. The truth is found in both God Word and His Works. God provides the testimony of multiple witnesses.
Thanks,
Tim Martin
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Re: The Star of Bethlehem (Score: 1)
by Terry on Monday, December 25 @ 09:56:23 PST (User Info | Send a Message) | Norm, this is excellent and fascinating. I have a very good piece of software called Stellarium which allows you to view astronomical events in real time or go to any particular time in the future or past to view the movement and positions of stars and planets. When I get home tonight I will play around with those dates and see what the skies would have looked back then from Bethlehem - if it is interesting enough I will even record a time-lapse video for you guys to see.
Thanks again!
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Re: The Star of Bethlehem (Score: 1)
by Sam on Monday, December 25 @ 12:22:29 PST (User Info | Send a Message) | I hate to be a party pooper, but many astronomists today agree with Jay Rao: "Indeed, a star of stars appearing just once in the history of man? Reaching a conclusion on this subject is not easy, for any natural theory for the Star of Bethlehem can only be at best, just an educated guess." Welcome to science.
Secondly, we have a textual problem as well. In Matthew 2.9 the "star" (whatever it was we are not told) "stopped" just over the birth scene. How a planet can "stop" is beyond me. The star is also said to have "went ahead" of the Magi.
I write this to state that while an interesting article, it hardly "proves" by the scientific branch called "astronomy" that Jesus is the Messiah that died for our sins. It does not even so much as "confirm" this, either - but if the information is correct, it does not negate the biblical story, either. I hold, with others, that "the star" (article in Greek for added emphasis) was miraculous - it was a "light" or a guide that lead the Magi to the "inn" where Jesus was born. I seriously doubt that this "star" would have shown up on any radar screen.
Merry Christmas
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Re: The Star of Bethlehem (Score: 1)
by Islamaphobe on Monday, December 25 @ 12:24:44 PST (User Info | Send a Message) | Norm,
I agree that the article is certainly interesting, but there is a problem in reconciling the astronomical events described with the quoted material from Matthew 2 (which references Micah 5:2) since historians date the death of Herod the Great as occurring in 4 BC. The slaughter of boys two years and under in Bethlehem under Herod's orders is perfectly in keeping with Herod's character as described in secular historical sources. I'd be interested in your take on this apparent conflict.
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The skies above Israel (Score: 1)
by Virgil on Monday, December 25 @ 16:25:58 PST (User Info | Send a Message) | Norman & all,
Here is the scoop. Thanks to science and technology (sic) we can actually see what the skies above Israel looked like. Between June 1, 3 BC and August 11, 2 BC some really interesting stuff is happening with Jupiter, Venus and Regulus. With Regulus being one of the brightest stars in the skies, this certainly could have not escaped the astronomers of the times, who were likely more familiar with the movements of astronomical bodies than we are today.
I have two time-lapsed videos (they are rather large in size, sorry), one of the entire year from June 1, 3 BC to August 11, 2 BC, lapsing both 24 hours and 7 days at a time. The videos are in AVI format and they are rather high resolution, running at 1280x768.
The second is of the evening of August 11 and August 12, 2 BC when Jupiter and Venus virtually became juxtaposed, with the two planets easily being noticed by anyone at that time. With the sun setting around 7:27 that night in Jerusalem, it's likely that the event was noticed right away, with them being the brightest lights in the skies besides the moon between about 12:00 AM and 5:00 AM. I know your article has a different date for this event but I think it's likely calendar use and date/time conversions are throwing us off by at least a month. I think we can also speculate (because that's what we scientists do, we speculate right?) that this is the evening Jesus could have been born.
By the way the telescope is located in Jerusalem and is tracking Jupiter in both instances.
August 11-12 video is here (17 Megs) - right mouse click to save:
http://planetpreterist.com/media/virgil/august_11_2_bc.avi
Year-lapse video is here (26 Megs) - right mouse click to save:
http://planetpreterist.com/media/virgil/year-lapse.avi
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Re: The Star of Bethlehem (Score: 1)
by jcarter on Tuesday, December 26 @ 13:54:34 PST (User Info | Send a Message) | for my essay from two christmas ago...
http://planetpreterist.com/news-1690.html
the "star" as a manifestation of God |
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Re: The Star of Bethlehem (Score: 1)
by mrfullpreterist on Wednesday, December 27 @ 10:44:37 PST (User Info | Send a Message) | Doesn't one of the Gospels say something about the star somehow positioning itself over the location where Jesus was? I don't have a Bible handy so I can't look it up right now, but it is there isn't it? If so, how did this happen if the star was merely an astonomical alignment of various heavenly bodies? Maybe it doesn't say what I think it does, I don't know. If it does can someone please answer this question for me?
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