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First Thessalonians 4:13-17 says the righteous are taken and the wicked are left behind. Matthew 13:30, 49 says the wicked are taken first and righteous are left behind. This points to two separate events, the rapture and the second coming.
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Souls Under The Altar
Posted on Friday, May 26 @ 17:58:23 PDT by Virgil

Preterism Truthsearcher submitted: "Are the souls under the alter in Rev 6:9 still waiting for their fellow servants and their brethren who were to be killed before the avenging of their blood?

We read in Revelation 6:9:
“When the Lamb broke the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they had maintained; and they cried out with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, will You refrain from judging and avenging our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”

Then we read the answer to their question.
“And there was given to each of them a white robe; and they were told that they should rest for a little while longer,

It seems the time for Judging and avenging their blood wasn’t too far in their future, but how much longer? Just how long would “a little while” be? Then we read:

“until the number of their fellow servants and their brethren who were to be killed even as they had been, would be completed also.”

When would it be completed? Maybe any day now, weeks, months, years, centuries? I mean, as long as there are Christians it is likely that someone, some place may die for Christ. WOW! That’s a long time.

Jesus, speaking to the Scribes, Pharisees, and lawyers in Luke 11:47-51 said:
“Woe to you! For you build the tombs of the prophets, and it was your fathers who killed them.
So you are witnesses and approve the deeds of your fathers; because it was they who killed them, and you build their tombs.
For this reason also the wisdom of God said, ‘I will send to them prophets and apostles, and some of them they will kill and some they will persecute, so that the blood of all the prophets, shed since the foundation of the world, may be charged against this generation, from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the house of God; yes, I tell you, it shall be charged against this generation.’

OK, I feel better, I see it isn’t referring to us today, but to them back in that generation. Now it makes sense why they were told in a little while.
I see Matthews adds the following which give us a little more information:
"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous, saying, 'If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.'
Thus you witness against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets.
Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers. Mat 23:29-23

So killing a number of their fellow servants and brethren of those under the altar would be completing their measure. Those who had died proclaiming the word and I would guess this were the apostles and prophets of the first century.

Paul wrote to the Thessalonians:
For you suffered the same things from your own countrymen as they did from the Jews, who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out, and displease God and oppose all mankind by hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles that they might be saved--so as always to fill up the measure of their sins. But God's wrath has come upon them at last! 1Th 2:14-16

Here we see another event that would be filling up their measure; hindering them from bringing the Gentiles into the kingdom or reign of Christ/God. The telling event that tells us that this was very close to happen was that God’s wrath against them had already started.

Matthews 24, Luke 21 and Mark 13 all verify that it would be before that generation ended.
“because these are days of vengeance, to fulfill all things that have been written.” Luke 21:22
“Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all has taken place.” Luke 21:32
“Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.” Mat 24:34

So before the end of that generation, not our or any others, we can be assured that their vengeance was taken and those under the Altar along with all the dead in Christ were raised out from under the altar and into the glory of God.

Larry Puckett, Sr.


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Re: Souls Under The Altar (Score: 1)
by Seeker (truth4u@gmail.com) on Monday, May 29 @ 07:38:34 PDT
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Thanks Larry for your article reaffirming the Preterist view.

Good job.

Seeker


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Re: Souls Under The Altar (Score: 1)
by paul (freebird@comcast.net) on Wednesday, May 31 @ 13:14:06 PDT
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Excellent! Thanks.
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