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Exclusive: Secondary Causes in the Kingdom of Heaven?
Posted on Sunday, April 23 @ 05:59:47 PDT by Kurt Simmons |
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by Kurt Simmons A recent article sets up a syllogism that posits God’s recreation mirrors the original creation; hence, because secondary causes are allegedly present in the spiritual recreation, therefore there were supposedly secondary causes (time, evolution) present in the material creation. This is wrong.
A syllogism of the author’s argument looks like this:
Major Premise: The recreation is a mirror of the Genesis creation.
Minor Premise: God uses secondary causes (preachers, instructors) in man’s recreation; therefore,
Conclusion: God used secondary causes (billions of years, evolution) in the Genesis creation.
There are several errors in this syllogism. First, that the recreation is a perfect mirror of the Genesis creation is an erroneous and unproved premise. Paul’s appeal to “light shining out of darkness” in II Cor. 4:6 refers to the inspiration and inward illumination given unto the apostles and preachers of the gospel, equipping them for the work of the ministry, and is hardly a basis for arguing a complete equivalence between the recreation and the Genesis creation. Paul is simply saying that as God called physical light into existence in the beginning, so he caused spiritual light to shine in the hearts of the apostles by the Holy Ghost. The analogy stops there and can be taken no further. Did God separate the waters from the dry land in the recreation? In what manner can it be said he “recreated” lower life forms, fish, birds, and creeping things? What about the waters above and below the firmament, where do these appear in the recreation? Since it cannot be shown that there is a complete equivalence between the creation and recreation, the alleged presence of secondary causes in the latter provides no basis for arguing their presence in the former. The author’s false premise leads to a faulty conclusion.
Second, the author’s minor premise is also in error. In the creation, God ordained that men be born into the world by procreation; that is, by and through the medium of other causes (carnal copulation). In the recreation, God ordained that men be brought into the kingdom of heaven by secondary causes (preaching, repentance, baptism). Thus, the secondary causes in the recreation answer to the secondary causes in the Genesis creation; procreation by physical union of man and woman answers to procreation by reception of the word in the heart of man, culminating in repentance and baptism. As there were no “secondary causes” in the Genesis creation (the author cannot identify a single one), so there are no “secondary causes” in the kingdom of heaven (the recreation). The kingdom into which men are born by repentance and baptism was called into existence by the word of God and nothing more. The author is therefore in error when he alleges that the recreation (kingdom) was brought about by secondary causes.
Finally, because the author argues from mistaken premises, it is inevitable that he reach a mistaken conclusion. The author believes that there were secondary causes in the Genesis creation other than word and Spirit of God. We challenge him to identify a single secondary cause. They do not exist in the scripture! If they did, the author would not have to fabricate them by reverse deduction, arguing from a faulty syllogism about the recreation. Let the author point to a single verse of scripture showing that billions of years elapsed in the creation; let him point to a single verse that shows the presence of natural causes or evolution in the Genesis creation. He cannot do it! They do not exist. Typical to the author’s methodology, he insinuates into the Bible what is not there. He presumes upon the silence of the scripture; he dares to add to the word of God what God has not said!
Kurt Simmons
www.preteristcentral.com
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Re: Secondary Causes in the Kingdom of Heaven? (Score: 1)
by JL (jlv@planetpreterist.com) on Sunday, April 23 @ 13:03:52 PDT (User Info | Send a Message) | Look at the pattern. Speak. The deed was done. Speak. The deed was done. Speak. The deed was done. .... Until suddenly, speak, then nothing was done, and God did it by hand. Why wasn't God's mere speaking good enough that last time?
Think how exhausted God must have been by the end of the 6th day. After 5 1/2 days of just speaking "Let us make ..." and things happening, He runs out of power and has to get his hands dirty. No wonder he has to rest for so long. :)
By the way Kurt, you accused us of promoting evolution. You need to be clear of what you mean. If you mean biological evolution, you're pointing at the wrong people. Young-Earth Creationists with their 15,000 kinds on the ark that develop into 6 million species are the only evolutionists here.
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As for your challenge (Score: 1)
by JL (jlv@planetpreterist.com) on Sunday, April 23 @ 13:20:19 PDT (User Info | Send a Message) | Here's some Scriptural evidence for secondary causes.
Gen. 1, speaking was clearly not enough in the creation of man.
Gen. 2, no flora. God creates man then plants a garden.
Job 38-41, God laid the earth's foundations. The whole passage speaks of secondary causes.
Have some more from Psalms 65 & 104, Prov. 8, & Heb. 1. After you're done with those, I've got more. |
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Re: Secondary Causes in the Kingdom of Heaven? (Score: 1)
by Malachi on Tuesday, April 25 @ 16:17:32 PDT (User Info | Send a Message) | The reader should take note that the challenge to produce scripture that show secondary means or causes present in the Genesis creation have gone completely unanswered. Not a single passage has been cited that shows God used secondary means in the original creation of the earth.
JL attempted to produce a verse. He relied upon Gen. 2:7 and 8 where it states that God "formed" man from the dust of the ground and that God "planted" a garden for man to dwell in. From this, JL and Tim extrapolate that there are billions of years involved in the Genesis creation account during which natural processes ("secondary means") acted in the creation of various species of plants and animals. That's right; from two words saying God "formed" and God "planted" they want us to believe that billions of years transpired and various secondary means. Fantastic? Yes, but this is their methodology. But surely a simple reading of Genesis in context is sufficient to refute their assertions completely.
Gen. 1:11-13: "And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so...And the evening and the morning were the third day." Thus, the creation of vegetation was instantaneous, spoken into existence by God's word. No time was used or needed at all. (Afterall, since God created time, why would he need it to make anything?)
On the fourth day, the lights in the firmament (sun, moon, and stars) were so arranged as to provide for the regulation of seasons, so that there would be seed time and harvest, summer and winter. (Gen. 1:14-19) Again, no secondary means or time was used or needed beyond the "evening and morning."
On the fifth day, God created the various species of birds and fishes(Gen. 1:20-23), and the sixth day he created the land mammals and other creatures, and he created man. (Gen. 1:24-28) Forming man from the dust of the ground merely indicates that God made man from the same stuff he made the rest earth's creatures. It does not imply an evolutionary process or "secondary means" of any sort. God acted directly in man's creation, calling him into existence as he did everything else. The Psalmist calls the heavens the "handiwork" of God (Ps. 19:1), but this does not imply God "formed" them by hand any more than saying God formed man from the dust of the ground does.
From the third day when vegetation was called into existence until man was created in the garden was only three days. Hence, the garden was obviously "planted" when God called vegetation into existence; "planting" merely signifies that it was especially created for man; nothing more.
These are the simple facts of the creation account. Billions of years are conspicuously absent, as are all secondary means. So why do JL and Tim argue so strenuously against the Bible, seeking to introduce into its text what is not there?
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