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News: Beyond Business-as-Usual Christianity
Posted on Tuesday, October 11 @ 06:15:12 PDT by John

Society Brian D. McLaren's laid-back style might fool you into thinking he's a hip college professor. In reality, he's a pastor and a leader in the emerging church movement. His book 'A Generous Orthodoxy' and his 'A New Kind of Christian' trilogy have challenged conservative evangelical views of Jesus, the Bible, and non-Christians. He spoke to Beliefnet about 'The Last Word and the Word After That,' which explores the concept of hell and completes his trilogy.

Congratulations on making TIME magazine’s '25 Most Influential Evangelicals' list. How did you feel about being included?

It’s complicated because my sense is that the article was really trying to equate the word 'evangelical' with 'conservative Republican.' Although I think there are many wonderful things about conservative Republicans, I don’t fit in that category. So I felt I probably was the oddest duck in the article (laughs). On the other hand, I was glad if I could be an example of someone from an evangelical background who is not happy with the tone of the religious right. So if I provided an alternative voice, I’m glad that I could be included.

You were involved in controversy when the Kentucky Baptist Convention rescinded your invitation to speak because of a controversial paragraph in your book 'A Generous Orthodoxy.' You said, in part, that making disciples doesn't necessarily "equal making adherents to the Christian religion." Did you think the dis-invitation was justified?

When I go to speak somewhere, I'm a guest so I'm not offended if someone would invite me and then decide they would rather not have me. And [the Kentucky Baptist Convention] were very kind and polite in the way they did it.

When you wrote that paragraph, did you feel it would make waves or did it seem natural to write?

I knew it would be seen as controversial to some people. If they had asked me for further explanation, I would have told them that this is an especially important issue for Americans to think about right now. Since the invasion of Iraq, there are millions of Christians around the world who now are in danger. If they associate with a Christian religion, that makes them seem to be associated with the United States for a whole number of reasons. It becomes dangerous and impossible for people who want to follow Jesus in their lives to identify as Christians. Very often if you’re in a Muslim country, and you identify as a Christian, you’re set up for exclusion and bad treatment. In some cases, worse.

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Re: Beyond Business-as-Usual Christianity (Score: 1)
by Virgil on Tuesday, October 11 @ 07:24:09 PDT
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I've been saying it for a while now that many American Christians believe to be the center of the world and that they represent orthodoxy and truth in Christianity. McLaren puts it quite well:

Just as in the time of and after Constantine, Christianity became too closely linked with the Roman Empire, if Christianity becomes too closely associated with Americanism...sincere followers of Jesus in many countries face needless dangers and trouble. This awareness – that people can be identified as Christ-followers without having to endorse everything associated with the word “Christian” – is widespread in the missions community, and has been an accepted methodology among missiologists for a long time.

With all the love and respect I have for this country, I'll always remember my translator days in Romania when American missionaries would come on mission trips and race against time to "save" as many people as possible because the end was near. The message was a separatist message. People would be saved out of the 2,000 year-old Orthodox Church into some neo-protestant-evangelical system that would eventually become just as entrapping as the old. It was the us vs. them message. They told us it was wrong to build beautiful cathedrals and church buildings, it was wrong to burn candles when saying prayers and it was wrong to use icons and symbolism in worship.

Yes sir, they are everywhere...exporting quality American theology since the 1800s.


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Re: Beyond Business-as-Usual Christianity (Score: 1)
by Mick on Wednesday, October 12 @ 07:12:47 PDT
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I have read 5 of Mr. McLaren's books in the last year or so. I find his arguments interesting, although I do not agree with all of them. I think he is trying to move Christianity in a direction that it has not know since Western culture took over Christianity and remove the culture that God defined through 6,000 years of world history. I find many similarities between some of the things that Mr. McLaren writes about and what Senator Rick Santorum writes about in his book "It Takes a Family". I also believe Senator Santorum has a world view that would benefit American Christianity. I think we would be hard pressed to call Senator Santorum a liberal.


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Is emergent a left-wing liberal propaganda machine? (Score: 1)
by Parker on Wednesday, October 12 @ 18:49:20 PDT
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Virgil, or anyone in on the "emergent" thing:

Perhaps you could answer a question for me, as I'm not always up to date on the latest fashoins in protestantism. What exactly is "emergent church," and is emergent a left-wing liberal propaganda machine?

I came across a couple "emergent" folk recently and they were a bush-hatin', amerika dissin', group of sour-puss liberals...er, i mean, christians. What's up with "emergent"?


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