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Posted on Monday, June 27 @ 13:51:13 PDT by AJ Bernhagen

PlanetPreterist Columns by AJ Bernhagen
Folks, the hardest part about being a Preterist has little to do with what you believe. Sure at first when someone comes along and theologically clubs your burning earth theory to death right in front of you it can get a little tough; but after awhile when the shock wears off and the dust settles, you’re sitting pretty with a whole new and better understanding of the Bible! Not a bad tradeoff. So then, what is the hardest part? Simple: telling a guy you know at church.

Let’s be honest. We’ve all had this moment. You’re sitting alone in the back pew at your church some Sunday when all of the sudden Lenny––the local dentist with an inquisitive face and a dorky smile––oozes up behind you and notices you’re reading The Parousia before the service starts. “What’s that?” he asks, and immediately you’re tempted to take a billy club to the back of old Lenny’s head.

So here in the Twilight Zone we have a situation. An inquisitive dentist wants to know what you’re reading. Well, we could tell him it’s just some book a friend of a friend gave you and you’re checking it out. That would be a lie, but given the circumstance you’re in danger of giving Lenny a heart attack, and we all know the sixth commandment: “Thou shalt not murder.” The truth hurts. Lenny has kids. As soon as he gathers the implication of Preterism (that most or all of prophecy is past in fulfillment), he’ll link it to the darkest idea one can fathom: Jesus ain’t a-comin’ back for nobody. You might as well tell the guy that you’re a Nazi, you kicked the Pope in the butt at Mass last week, or you like country music. It’s unthinkable!

You can already see the paling face, the trembling hands, the small amounts of spittle forming on the dentist’s purple lips as he tries to summon the greatest curse to hurl upon you.

To tell or not to tell?

The second scenario is a lot like the first. You’re at home sitting in bed, reaching down under the mattress to sneak a peak at a few David Curtis articles you’ve got stashed like Playboys. Your wife and partner of thirteen years, which you have yet to mention your demonic interest to, catches you in the act. The same thing happens when you forget to delete all the dirty history on the computer that shows you were surfing PreteristArvhice or PlanetPreterist and your loving better half suspects the worst.

What to do, what to do?

Since my Preterist beliefs were first exposed in a classroom setting (which makes these two scenarios look like the Comfort Inn), and have since been asked several times “what I’m reading” or “what’s that PlanetPreterist bookmark?”, I have a few things I’d like to share.

#1. You’re a Preterist. You believe Jesus isn’t coming back again. There’s just no nice way to say it, so you might as well say it.

Believe me when I say that unless the person you’re talking to falls over dead––which can happen––they are probably going to stick around to at least chew you out. Use what little time available in between rants to hook their interest. Wow them with the Matthew verses; stun them with your unique understanding of Revelation; shatter the rapture with Greek translations. Do something to keep them there. It isn’t that hard, trust me.

#2. Don’t leave them hanging.

If you were a mobster with orders passed down from the boss in Cosa Nostra to whack a guy, and you go in and shoot him in the leg, causing unbelievable amounts of pain but failing to complete your assignment, there’s Hell to pay.

Perhaps the worst thing a Preterist can do to a crippled Futurist is look at his watch and go: “Well, it’s getting late. I’ve got to catch a flight back to California. Nice talking with you.”

In case it isn’t obvious, you might leave the poor guy a little confused, and maybe even a little depressed. I’d go so far as to say that the bar across the street starts looking mighty friendly after you mentally battered an innocent churchgoer. Before long the bar is a second home and Johnny Applewind––the guy with half a theology––is downing Jack Daniels like lemonade in early August.

What’s the point? Offer material. Books, web sites, articles, faxes, e-mail exchanges, postcards with timing statements, tracts, conference tickets, anything!

#3. If Johnny Applewind speaks up and says, “Hey, I’m on the same flight back to California with you!” and you fail to turn around and offer to study with him, you’ve failed.

Obviously your offers will often go unwanted. They’ll shrug you off with a smile and say life’s pretty busy right now, but this summer they should have some time. Right. And I would love to study with you, too, but Peter Pan just came to fly me off to Neverland where we’ll sing campfire songs and watch Michael Jackson trial footage.

Once in awhile you’ll catch what David Curtis would say is a person in the five percent group. They want to study. They’re intrigued, they’re fascinated. Let’s do it! YEAAAH! In which case I think it is our responsibility as people who have some idea of the truth to do all we can to help the upcoming Preterist (even if they don’t know it yet and are only doing this to prove you wrong).

#4. Try not to make it a battle.

This one I can say I know from experience. You feel like a Spartan child in ancient Greece training day in and day out. Your exercise is simple enough: knock the tree over. So you and your band of fellow students line up, shield to back, and at your drill instructor’s command you push. And push. And push...

It isn’t long into the exercise that the truth hits you: you aren’t supposed to push over the tree. It’s supposed to drain you of energy and leave you crying like a sissy in the dirt.

What’s the moral of this example? The longer you push against the tree, the more tired you become.

I have privately debated Futurists for lengths of time spanning from a few seconds to a few years (and I don't even do this all that often). We’ve exchanged e-mails, written letters, talked over the phone and in person. I’ve tried to answer teachers backed by a room full of students and small groups of people out for blood.

The lesson I took away was that if all Preterism is is a fight, then the truth is not spreading, and you’re just banging your head against a wall. Want to know how to tell a potential Preterist from a wolf in sheep’s clothing? They’ll ask questions that they have no answers to, but expect you to be able to answer them.

No doubt you’ve all heard that you have to approach this issue with a “Could this be true?” mentality. This is certainly the case.

But if the worse does happen and a night’s studying session turns sour, smile, keep your finger on the Scripture, and try to remember that it’s not your job to convince anyone. All you can do is repeat what’s been said, and hope your friend will listen.

I hope this little article has been helpful. I’ve gone against all this advice at some point, but it never helped. I apologize in advance for any mistakes in here. This is my first column so I’m working with all the technicalities.

Let’s hunt some Futurist!

-A.J.

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AJ Bernhagen is a columnist for PlanetPreterist.com.

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Re: Hi, I'm a Preterist (Score: 1)
by Erick on Monday, June 27 @ 14:18:40 PDT
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:^) One word: awesome!
Man did I need that,
thanks A.J.
- erick


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Re: Hi, I'm a Preterist (Score: 1)
by Reformer on Monday, June 27 @ 15:27:26 PDT
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Not all (full) preterists believe that Jesus' comings cease after his return in A.D. 70. In my opinion, this is an area that needs and demands much better scholarship than has been presented to date.


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Re: Hi, I'm a Preterist (Score: 1)
by Truthsearcher on Monday, June 27 @ 17:36:19 PDT
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Great article A.J- Right on the money, all of it. I know because I can relate to it, coming out of the CoC. Traditions is like dark sun glasses that shaded us from the light.


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Re: Hi, I'm a Preterist (Score: 1)
by SuperSoulFighter on Tuesday, June 28 @ 00:25:20 PDT
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Great humor, AJ. Dark and exaggerated in some places, but fairly true to our experiences overall!

I particularly agreed with your conclusion that it's not our place to do the "convincing". The Truth is its own best defense.

And we can't help it if we're right and the rest of Christendom is wrong! ;)

I think we need to focus on the youth in particular in the days ahead. At least the high school and college-age young people don't have their minds totally made up yet to the point that they won't give any other view reasonable consideration.

Thanks again for the great chuckle!

JM


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Re: Hi, I'm a Preterist (Score: 1)
by jaredcoleman on Tuesday, June 28 @ 02:58:17 PDT
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"You’re at home sitting in bed, reaching down under the mattress to sneak a peak at a few David Curtis articles you’ve got stashed like Playboys."

ROTFL!


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Re: Hi, I'm a Preterist (Score: 1)
by Erick on Tuesday, June 28 @ 08:26:24 PDT
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Reformer,

70AD was unique in what THAT coming brought about (a cataclysmic melting or removing of the Old Testament cultus elements, and the revealing of the Christ’s New Jerusalem), though it was not entirely different experientially from other "comings" found in the Old Testament (i.e. God using other nations to violently judge his covenant-breaking people). As far as there being more "comings" after 70AD this is a good question for preterist to consider, but none that I know of (including myself) would entertain the possibility of the 70AD judgment being a type of a greater second age-changing “coming” to come. However, I believe that there are ways in which we may speak of more post 70AD “comings,” (and if I may put my head on the chopping block :^) I offer three possibilities - in order of least controversial to most:

1) Coming of judgment upon the nations:
God in the O.T. judged not only his covenant breaking people for violating Torah but also those non-covenant nations that contributed to their persecution and/or their moral corruption (Sodom, and Edom come to mind). Nothing on this planet happens in a theological vacuum including the great upheaval of nations and churches. God has his hand of judgment AND mercy in all of it, but the problem is that one can never dogmatically know without a prophet to interpret the event, the best we can do (which is still pretty darn good if you ask me) is study the O.T. examples and judge ourselves less we be judged. The pilgrims saw God’s sovereign hand in the great famine they experienced when coming to this country (during a period of much political and religious upheaval in Europe), and after much death, suffering, prayer, and reaching out to the native Americans, they experienced a bumper crop and gave glory to God in what we call Thanksgiving. God is not dead, nor a static icon, He’s alive and well on planet Earth and filling the Heavens with His glory.

2) Coming to the individual:
Jesus Christ is manifest to the believer today and not to the unbeliever who cannot see the kingdom of God; this is because both the Father and the Son through the Spirit “come” to the individual who enters into the New Covenant. To those who keep His word Christ said, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep my word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not keep my words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent me” (Jn. 14:23). The experiential presence of God in the individual’s “temple” depends on an obedient faith, only then can we enter into the Parousia phenomenon, and feel the train of his majestic robe fill us with glory (Is. 6:1). The images and language about “no more sin” are positional/covenantal terms, not experiential terms, and so when we sin we “feel” like God has abandoned us, and so we must remind ourselves that in Christ God has “forgiven our sins and remembers them no more.” With that knowledge of God’s grace we will be less likely to live a pre-Parousia lifestyle.

3) Coming to the assembly:
If one is in Christ they are a part of the Temple and so we live in the presence of the Lord; however, we see a reiterating of some Old Testament laws for the New Covenant age – for both Jew and Gentiles (e.g. Jerusalem council "no blood" etc.), and in the New Covenant age some new “laws” added (divine standards for O.T. elders never existed) and so it is possible to sin (1 Jn. 2:1-2; 3:4; 5:17) to break the moral standards of Christ (i.e. his “laws” Jn. 14:15; 1 Jn. 2:3), as well as to violate another New Covenant brother in the faith. In the New Covenant the brethren didn’t abandon, but infiltrated the synagogues as well as started their own house fellowship according to the standards set for by Paul – these were the earliest Christian churches (or assemblies) in which Christ entrusted judgment if done according to his law and the O.T. Deuteronomic law of witnesses. When done so, Christ promised to

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Re: Hi, I'm a Preterist (Score: 1)
by Virgil on Tuesday, June 28 @ 10:04:49 PDT
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A.J. you never cease to surprise me...in a positive way that is.

Thanks for this great article! :)


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