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”I also said that ‘if’ a generation was forty years and ‘if’ the generation of the ‘fig tree’ (Matthew 24:32-34) started with the foundation of the state of Israel, then Jesus ‘might come back by 1988.’ But I put a lot of ifs and maybes in because I knew that no one could be absolutely certain.”
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News: Penn & Teller say "The End of the World is Bull$!*t"
Posted on Friday, April 29 @ 20:21:25 PDT by Virgil

Other It appears that in 2003, Penn & Teller covered the topic "The End of the World" in one of the episodes of their Showtime show "Penn & Teller: Bull$!*t" where they cover various popular topics and they supposedly decide what is right and wrong. Besides covering Nostradamus and crazy survivalists, they also interviewed Hal Lindsey, rightly pointing out his failed predictions and concluding that he was an "a**hole" for taking advantage of 35 million readers that bought his books.

While the language is too much to deal with (at least for me), if you do have a chance to watch this episode, consider doing so. You will see how a nonbeliever perceives Christianity as a whole because of Hal Lindsey and people like him.

Click here to see details about this episode (beware of the language).


 
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Re: Penn & Teller (Score: 1)
by Dana_Nathan_Salsbury on Saturday, April 30 @ 10:21:18 PDT
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Wow. Although it's hard to take, seeing the world (rightly) mock the church in this area, it's refreshing to see blunt reality exposing Lindsey. We, as preterist Christians, are constrained to speak the truth in love and to watch that we don't fall into temptation. Penn and Teller are under no such restraints.

Reading this makes me want to get the world out more and more. I don't want the world to take the lead in exposing futurism. I pray for us in our endeavors to write, speak and debate for preterism. Don't let up!! It just might be that we were born for 'such a time as this'.

-Dana


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Re: Penn & Teller say (Score: 1)
by SuperSoulFighter on Saturday, April 30 @ 16:45:19 PDT
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Those Showtime pages are unavailabe to anyone outside the US (including Canadians like me) - but I get the general idea. Yes, it's good to have the unsaved, non-Christian "world" onboard exposing the nonsensical foolishness of Dispy futurism. But it's important to give the reactionaries something positive to turn to in place of futurism. Christianity DOES have a rational, historically legitimate framework within which to understand and experience it. It's just that futurism does not provide that comprehensional structure.

JM


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Re: Penn & Teller say (Score: 1)
by alberto on Sunday, May 01 @ 06:02:07 PDT
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Television, now there is an interesting device. I an "alien being" were reporting back to his home planet, he would have observed that many of the earth's inhabitants spend much time sitting motionless in front of a pulsating, glowing electron tube. The one-dimensional images projected upon this hypnotic device, he would report, are designed to cause the hypnotees to spend their money on various products. He would probably not be particulary aware of the other use of the glowing, hypnotic, tube--as an electronic wrecking-ball designed to destroy the moral fiber and discernment of a whole populations, and turn them into well-programmed, morally-challenged, lust-driven scoffers, and blasphemers against God. Perhaps Marshall McLuhan was correct: "The medium IS the message."


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