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News: Democrats Depressed
Posted on Saturday, November 06 @ 12:03:48 PST by John

Amusing After losing back-to-back presidential elections, Democratic leaders are trying to figure out how to make the party more relevant to mainstream Americans and keep it from slipping into perpetual minority-party status, while John Kerry supporters are turning to Prozac and therapists by the hundreds.

And the task is daunting, many Democratic consultants and leaders agree.

Republicans have cut deeply into formerly Democratic areas in rural America, the Sunbelt, and among Hispanics, the nation's fastest-growing minority group. They have made gains on "family values" issues, winning over social conservatives who previously voted Democratic on economic issues, while keeping their advantage on national defense.

"We were on a tough playing field," said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., suggesting Republicans had made inroads among socially conservative former Democrats by emphasizing "wedge issues" like gay marriage and abortion.

Ballot measures in 11 states to ban gay marriage also helped boost turnout for Republicans.

Democrats also have no strong leader to pull the party out of the wilderness.

With the defeat of Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota, the party's top two congressional leaders are Pelosi, a San Francisco-area liberal, and Nevada Sen. Harry Reid, now the No. 2 leader, known mostly as a low-key insider.

For 2008, the presumptive leading presidential candidates are New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, a Northeastern centrist and one of the most polarizing figures in American politics, and North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, a trial lawyer and failed vice presidential candidate with little public service besides six years in Congress.

Democrats have a bad case of the blues after seeing so much red.

A look at the 2004 election map with states President Bush won in red and John Kerry's in blue underscores the dilemma.

Unbroken stretches of red nearly from coast to coast, encompassing most of the heartland, the South, the Great Plains, the desert Southwest and the Rocky Mountain West. Blue states are mostly a fringe along both coasts - the Northeastern seaboard and the West Coast states of California, Oregon and Washington - along with some of the industrial states bordering the Great Lakes.

Democrats suffer from a chronic geographical and ideological predilection: They nominate candidates from the political left who have a hard time appealing to those in the middle.

"My advice to the Democrats is never, never nominate anybody from Massachusetts again," said Ross Baker, a political scientist at Rutgers University.

The last Northeastern Democrat elected president was John F. Kennedy in 1960. Since then, just three Democrats - all from the South - have served: Lyndon Johnson of Texas, Jimmy Carter of Georgia and Bill Clinton of Arkansas.

Once solidly Democratic, the South today is solidly Republican.


CNN advertises depression treatment, psychotherapy and mental health services to Kerry supporters (click to enlarge).

Democrats also lost seats in the House and Senate, increasing GOP majorities there.

"I don't think there's any question that we did not get the wind, the uplift that we had expected in this campaign," said Rep. Robert Matsui, D-Calif., chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. "The red states, after the debates, got redder."

Democratic pollster Stan Greenberg said Friday that Democrats were never able to bring economic issues to the fore. "We run elections in a real world. You can choose to say you wanted to focus on the economy, but Iraq was a powerful story. People were dying. You cannot have Iraq news without a candidate talking about it," Greenberg told reporters during a post-mortem session.

Robert Borosage, co-director of the liberal Campaign for America's Future, said: "Democrats have started forming their circular firing squads."

But Borosage urged Democrats not to capitulate, saying polling suggests a majority still supports the Democratic position on many economic and domestic issues like health care and the economy.

Al From, head of the centrist Democratic Leadership Council, which helped put Bill Clinton on the path to the White House in 1992, said Democrats "have to do a better job with connecting with those people who go to work every day and play by the rules."

"We need to compete all over the country. We can't allow ourselves to abandon any region like the South. And we can't cede territory to the Republicans because they'll take every inch we give."

Jenny Backus, a Democratic consultant, said the election was closer than Bush's 3.5 million-vote victory makes it seem. She suggested a swing to Kerry of 100,000 votes in Ohio would have given him the presidency.

Still, she said, "I think we can do a better job - and I don't blame this on Kerry, it's just something constitutionally we haven't done - of talking more about our values and love of country."

Democrats search the dark clouds for signs of light. Republicans could overplay their hand. Democrats still have an edge among Hispanics, which they could exploit. Focusing most of their attention this year on battleground states, they could do more to reach out to voters in other parts of the country, particularly in the Southwest and Mountain States.

Stephen Hess, a presidential scholar at the Brookings Institution, said he's seen the Republican party all but written off in the past when Democrats simultaneously ruled the White House and Congress - only to come roaring back.

"Eventually, the party in power is going to screw up," Hess said.

House Democratic leader Pelosi put it another way. "Quite frankly, I think the table is set for us in the next election," she said. "We have lost just about everything that we can lose."


 
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Re: Democrats Depressed (Score: 1)
by Islamaphobe on Saturday, November 06 @ 14:45:56 PST
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The secularist left suffers from the lack of a utopian vision that can arouse the passions of its adherents in a positive way. Liberalism is evermore defined by what it is against rather than by what it is for. The Democratic party is an amalgamation of interest groups that coalesces around such ideas as preserving unrestricted abortion, redistributing income to loyal supporters by taxing the "rich" (consisting largely of those who do what saving there is in our economy), increasing the government payroll, maintaining affirmative action for middle class and even upper-income blacks, and keeping those awful Neanderthal "fundamentalists" from having any influence over public policy.

That this election was as close as it was can be explained by the influence of our strongly secularist "mainstream" media (MSM) and the most libertine elements of our entertainment industry. The media establishment has been severely set back by the election, but they are a long way from being reformed so as to reflect the views of the population at large. Those of us who do not share the worldview of the MSM have our work cut out for us. The same applies to the field of education, particularly "higher" education, where the popular notion of "diversity" does not include those who lack a liberal and secular worldview.



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Re: Democrats Depressed (Score: 1)
by chrisliv on Sunday, November 07 @ 13:17:27 PST
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Yeah,

As a non-voter, I'm of the opinion that elections amount to an advance auction of stolen goods.

So, I wasn't surprised as the neoliberal Right cried during the two terms of Clinton.

And it seems fitting that statists on the Left should also cry about two terms of Bush.

Peace to you all,
Christian



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Re: Democrats Depressed (Score: 1)
by BigD on Monday, November 08 @ 10:45:23 PST
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I think you can sum up why the Dems lost in one word: Slick. They didn't have it. A slick guy like Clinton has a much more likeable personality, his waffles wouldn't have been so glaring, and he could have done a better job of explaining away a horrible liberal record. It kills me that a guy like Kerry, with so many negatives, still came that close. I'll concede that while the libs are writing this election off as being about personalities (not values) I'd say it was about personalities for the victims of government schools - 10+% of the electorate.

Watch Hillary, she's been very smart. Everything she does is calculated for how it will play in presidential politics. By design, in 2008 we won't be able to say she's anywhere near the most liberal senator, that she goofed off, skipped out of important meetings, etc. She's been making a lot of inroads to fellow Dems all over the country. She's focusing on the big prize in 2008 at the expense of being a liberal combatant in the Senate on the issues of the day.

Dave


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Re: Democrats Depressed (Score: 1)
by leslie on Monday, November 08 @ 12:32:10 PST
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Hey Hey. I am a Democrat and I am not depressed, everyone won who I voted for. There are still a lot of Conservative Democrats out there (which I am one). I vote for the person and not the party. There are a lot of Conservative Democrats where I live who are very anti-abortion and anti-government funding of such. And anti-stick your nose and controls in my business. Good gun control is two hands on your pistol and a night sight on your rifle.There are several 'wings' to the Democrat Party and their are several 'wings' to the Repuplican Party. Open debate is good and hopefully the low down National Leaders will start to understand that they have lost Their base of Conservative Democrats and in a way the Republican Party has become to Old Conservative Democrat Party. Am I over the line?


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