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Did Jesus Really Rise on Sunday?
Posted on Thursday, April 15 @ 14:01:26 PDT by John |
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kfiech submitted: "To make the case for ALL scriptures (including "in three days"..."after three days" ...."the third day" etc.) concerning the resurrection, after Jesus was placed in the tomb just before sunset on Wednesday - just before the High Sabbath (Holy Day), He needed to be raised just before or right at sunset on Saturday, NOT sometime on Sunday:
"The Passover really begins on the Tenth day of the month, not the 14th (Ex 12:3-13). Our prior studies have given us the Scriptural evidence showing Jesus was three days and nights in the earth, then raised on the third day. The 10th of Abib was the time when the Lamb had to be seen by the people and accepted. When Jesus was anointed in Bethany, it was a Friday, He rode into Jerusalem on a Saturday, a weekly sabbath according to the commandment. He taught on Sunday in the temple after He cleaned it out the second time, thus dividing Seasons. He was accepted by the people on Monday, examined by the religious rulers, betrayed on Tuesday, went to the Cross on Wednesday, in the midst of the week as Daniel points out. Jesus also said He would be raised on the third day, how does it fit with the three days and nights? Perfect, He went into the grave at night, making it the first night, then the Feast of Unleavened Bread being the High Sabbath the first day, that night the second night, Friday the weekly preparation day the second day, that night the third night. The weekly sabbath according to the Fifth Commandment the third day, thus He went into the grave at the beginning of sabbath, was raised on a sabbath, making Him our Sabbath. The Passover is the Preparation day for the feast day, thus the Passover is followed by the High Sabbath of the Feast of Unleavened Bread which was always on the 15th day of the month of Abib. Mark shows the women at the Cross on the Passover, but Luke says they fixed spices, which involves cooking, a labor, which could not be done on the Feast of Unleavened Bread or the weekly sabbath. Luke then shows the women made the spices on the Preparation day for the weekly sabbath, which is always a Friday, then rested on the sabbath "according to the Commandment" which is always Saturday. Accordingly if the day before the Preparation Day was a Thursday, yet a High Sabbath, it was the Feast of Unleavened Bread, making the prior day the Passover.
We find the High Sabbaths were on a date, regardless of the day, but the sabbath according to the Commandment is always on Saturday, regardless of the date. Jesus said He would be three days and nights in the earth being raised on the Third Day, thus His words were prophetic in nature, it had to be three Days, not one day over, or short, or in part. If Friday was the day of the Cross, that night would be the first night, Saturday the first day, yet we know He was discovered raised on a Sunday, which means if we hold to the Friday thought we must be saying Jesus was in error for predicting the time, which makes Jesus a false prophet and not to followed. The time keeping element is important, the Jews, unlike other nations have Sabbath days, thus for them there is no “part of a day, makes a whole day”. If it were the case then one could begin their sabbath in the morning, cease at noon claiming they kept the sabbath. The Jew keeps a total day, four watches in the day, four in the night, their day is from sunset to sunset. The traditions of men can be dangerous positions to take, although one could suggest Friday was a day, Saturday another and Sunday the third, we find Jesus was not in the tomb on Sunday morning before the sun came up. Therefore, we can’t count Sunday as one of the days, but we do count it as the Day of Discovery. In order for Jesus to be raised on the third day, yet not be in the grave on Sunday means He was raised on Saturday. In Mark 15:42 the phrase “day before the sabbath” could refer to the weekly sabbath or High Sabbath, since the High Sabbaths had preparation days as well. The clue to Mark 15:42 is found in the wording “it was”, pointing to the Passover, meaning the Passover is the Preparation day mentioned, the High Sabbath was approaching. All this is clearer when we read in Mark 15:40-41 how the women were standing near, not in their homes making spices. Yet, in Luke they are found on the Preparation day making spices (Luke 23:56), thus separating Preparation days. Jesus was placed in the grave as the sun was setting, making it the beginning of the High Sabbath, the women saw the place and returned home. They prepared the spices on the Preparation day, then rested on the sabbath according to the Commandment. They would not have the time to prepare anything on the Passover, since the High Sabbath begins at sunset. It only leaves Friday to prepare the spices, then resting on Saturday, with the discovery of the empty tomb on Sunday morning, the First day of the week.""
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Re: Did Jesus Really Rise on Sunday? (Score: 1)
 by judge on Thursday, April 15 @ 22:00:02 PDT
(User Info | Send a Message) | Thanks kfiech!
I tend to agree with this. |
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Re: Did Jesus Really Rise on Sunday? (Score: 1)
by Apollos on Friday, April 16 @ 06:01:39 PDT
(User Info | Send a Message) | "When Jesus was anointed in Bethany, it was a Friday, He rode into Jerusalem on a Saturday, a weekly sabbath according to the commandment. He taught on Sunday in the temple after He cleaned it out the second time, thus dividing Seasons. He was accepted by the people on Monday, examined by the religious rulers, betrayed on Tuesday, went to the Cross on Wednesday...."
Please list the scriptures which develop each step of this timeline. Thanks! |
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Re: Did Jesus Really Rise on Sunday? (Score: 1)
 by RevelationMan on Friday, April 16 @ 10:51:08 PDT
(User Info | Send a Message) | I agree with you on the Wednesday Crucifixion on April 5 30 CE, and the events leading up to tht day. John 19:13 makes it clear that Jesus was sentenced at noon but Mark 15:25 tells us that Jesus was crucified at 9:00 a.m. The Last Supper was not a Passover meal because they broke every tradition associated with Passover. (Not to mention that Jesus could not be the Passover lamb if Passover was celebrated before he died.) The meal was eaten Monday evening.
However, I disagree with you on the day that he arose. The gospel accounts make it very clear that it was Sunday morning that he rose. All of the scriptures that say he would rise on the the third day, have the word "on" added into the sentence. However, there are a couple of Scriptures that do say he would rise after 3 days (Matthew 27:63 & Mark 8:31).
Revelation 11 clears up the matter by telling us that it was 3 1/2 days later. One only needs to examine the number 3 1/2 in the Bible to see why he would have been in the grave that long. I have an article on the crucifixion of Jesus at http://home.comcast.net/~todaystheophilus/Crucifixion_of_Jesus.html
As you've probably guessed, this is another one of the things that I cover in my book, "A Personal Revelation." |
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Re: Did Jesus Really Rise on Sunday? (Score: 1)
by John4xvi on Friday, April 16 @ 12:01:39 PDT
(User Info | Send a Message) | The following, is our account of the last three days in the life of Jesus, as a man. We have to point out that different Jewish sects had their feasts on different days, as they had different calendars. Our account is also based on the Western day, whereas the four accounts in the bible are based on the Jewish day, which starts at six o'clock in the evening. So a full Monday would run, Monday evening, Monday night, Monday morning, and then Monday afternoon. This is in accordance with the first page of the bible, 'On the first day there was evening and then morning.'
The Bible tells us that the crucifixion of Jesus took place on the day before the Sabbath, this is not necessarily the Friday because at the time of the Passover there were extra Sabbaths, similar to today we have national holidays.
Our account of Jesus' death and resurrection, as given in the bible, runs as follows: The Lord gave up His spirit at three o'clock on Wednesday afternoon; He was placed in the tomb early Thursday evening; He then spent three days in the grave and rose early Sunday evening. The tomb was found empty the next morning, that is Sunday morning.
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