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May You be Covered in the Dust of Your Rabbi


By Virgil - Posted on 26 July 2005

by Virgil Vaduva
I recently ran across a fantastic teaching tool that takes a post-modern approach to communicating powerful ideas and concepts to a contemporary post-modern generation. Rob Bell, in his fantastic short-films that can be found at nooma.com takes teaching to a whole new level, and his view of discipleship especially hit home with me.I recently ran across a fantastic teaching tool that takes a post-modern approach to communicating powerful ideas and concepts to a contemporary post-modern generation. Rob Bell, in his fantastic short-films that can be found at nooma.com takes teaching to a whole new level, and his view of discipleship especially hit home with me.As usual, in the Scriptures, context is everything, and until now, I did not see anything special in the way Christ approached His disciples, but when historical and cultural contexts are brought to the table, the story becomes much more beautiful, more real and certainly more powerful.

You see, in Jewish culture, education takes front stage and overrides every other aspect of human existence; and by education of course I mean the study of the Scripture. It appears that Jewish boys started their education as early as the age of five or six. In these first few years, until about the age of ten, the boys would dedicate most, if not all their time to memorizing the Torah. That is Genesis through Deuteronomy.

After the age of ten, the second stage of education called Beth-Talmud, would be spent memorizing the rest of the Jewish scriptures, all the way through Malachi! So by the age of fourteen, most Jewish boys would in fact have the entire Scripture memorized! And if this was not enough, after the age of fourteen those who were extremely bright and motivated would dedicate all their time to studying the Law and the various schools of interpretations. Students would have lengthy discussions over the whys and hows of how certain passages should be interpreted.

Often, the Rabbis, the teachers of Israel would have different or even opposing interpretations of the Law, and each interpretation was literally called “the yoke.” Each Rabbi had his own yoke, his own school, which a willing and bright student would be accepted into. The student would give up his life, family, business and friends, and turn himself completely over to the Rabbi. Of course, the ultimate goal of each student was that he would eventually become a Rabbi himself, so in the learning process, he would do everything possible to be as close to his Rabbi as possible. Tradition teaches that the student would mimic every movement, every thought and every word of the Rabbi, even down to the way the Rabbi chewed his food! The student was to be just like his Rabbi…and eventually be the Rabbi.

What is so powerful about this picture is that students that did not make the cut, and were unable to follow close in the steps of the Rabbi would be “expelled.” The Rabbi would tell the student to return home and “go fish” or do whatever else he was good at. Why is this powerful? Well, look at Matthew 4 where Jesus walks by the Sea of Galilee and he sees Peter and Andrew fishing. Folks...Peter and Andrew didn’t make the cut; they were rejects! And when Jesus said to them “Come, follow me” they immediately dropped their nets, their jobs, they boats and followed Him; they followed their Rabbi and they took on His yoke. In Matthew 11 Jesus said “My yoke is easy, and my burden is light.” How powerful this is, that Jesus does not expel those who fall short of the mark. Is this not a description of each one of us?

And does this picture not demolish the petty arguments that we all get bogged down in, much in the way the Jewish students were, arguing over the meaning of the Sabbath, and the number of steps they could walk on a Sabbath? Much the same, we choose to judge each other, confront each other and throw mud or praises at each other depending on how we interpret Scripture?

Is it really that hard for us to make an effort to understand that this is all about Jesus? That “truth” really is not outside Him? That truth is not a set of ideas, principles or creeds? That truth is in fact Christ?

So, much in the way of Christ asking Peter and Andrew to follow, we should all take His yoke. We are all worthy of it, and it is easy enough for each one of us, and its burden is light. This is not about some magic moment, where we "invite Him into our hearts" and everything is suddently better. Christianity is about discipleship; is about rejects, average, flawed people following in His steps with only one goal: to be more like Him. And if Preterism does not help us be more like Him then I want no part of it! How can we take such righteous attitudes towards each other and expect perfection to the letter from each other, especially as Preterists, knowing full-well that we are all rejects, more or less the last junior-varsity team in the high-school league?

As an encouragement, let all of us follow Him so close that we can experience His living presence; that we can touch His garment; that we can speak like Him, chew like Him and think like Him. And at last, as it is written in the Mishna, let's follow Him so close that “may we all be covered in the dust of our Rabbi.”

Check-out nooma.com and watch Rob Bell’s awesome message on the topic here.

KurtF's picture

That truth is not a set of ideas, principles or creeds? That truth is in fact Christ?.....As an encouragement, let all of us follow Him so close that we can experience His living presence; that we can touch His garment; that we can speak like Him, chew like Him and think like Him.

Virgil, it sounds soooo good. Makes me feel like I am in a Harry Potter book. Just dress the part, say the magic words, etc. and you will be like Jesus! Truth is a set of ideas and principles that we can take from Jesus' words and actions and apply them to our own set of facts in life.The Holy Spirit gives us the power to do it. Simply asking WWJD does not cut it in this world.

Go back and look at the hippie Jesus Freaks in the late 1960's - their "culture" resembles the postmodern culture demise we have today. Its not about US and whatever man-made culture we slime around in, it's about Jesus Christ. We don't need to cater to whatever goofy culture currently entraps us. Break through with the Word of God, and the Word of God only. It is sufficient.

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I doubt he did - Kurt always finds it easier to criticize and apply his paradigm to a situation..mostly in a critical manner.

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Virgil,

You were right. I didn't listen to it. My initial comments came from YOUR evaluation of it. So, I took the time and actually listened and watched it as penance. Then, I had my wife, 18 year-old-daughter, and myself watch it the second time.

I was all prepared to share my thoughts (good - "the content was EXCELLENT" - and bad - "the stand -up comedy delivery was in poor taste and disrespectful in many ways), my related background (I was there when Bill Hybels started his church in Park Ridge in the mid-70's and attended a Willow Creek affiliate church prior to my move into "Calvinism"), my daughter's comments, etc.

Then I re-read Virgil's note about how I would only "apply my paradigm to a situation" and I thought - "What's the use?" There's no room for me and my "paradigm" in Virgil's "generous orthodoxy." Too bad Virgil is only inclusive if it doesn't offend HIS "paradigm."

Peace.

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What's the use?" There's no room for me and my "paradigm" in Virgil's "generous orthodoxy." Too bad Virgil is only inclusive if it doesn't offend HIS "paradigm."

Kurt, have you ever thought about the way you are being perceived by people on here? This is not about my "generosity" as you continue to claim...it's about you picking on anything and everything someone says that seems "out of ordinary" to you.

This is a good example - you took my comments out of context, you criticized what I said, then when you watched Rob's presentation, you liked it, but even then you had to find something else wrong with it...his delivery, not knowing anything about where he was, what the setting was, what the audience was, etc.

This is not just me saying this, but other people too. You are being extremely negative and it doesn't fit you - you are smarter and better than that. That's what I see coming from you... You can take it or leave it...

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"...when you watched Rob's presentation, you liked it, but even then you had to find something else wrong with it...his delivery, not knowing anything about where he was, what the setting was, what the audience was, etc."

Virgil, you don't give me credit for much, do you? Did you read all of my post? And if you did, did you just read it through your "paradigm?"

Let me spell it out. I know all about "where he was, what the setting was, what the audience was.." I knew and experienced the "experience" of Bill Hybels and Willow Creek-type "presentation" while you were still literally in grade school. I attended a "Willow Creek" church even up to only a couple of years ago. It's what I have "come out of."

Drama, antics on stage, jokes at the expense of the seriousness of Scripture, etc. do NOT make good methodology to ANY audience because - that is not how Scripture presents it! These are theatre tricks to arouse emotion in the audience at the expense of the message. Until you understand that, Virgil, the path you are going down will result in surface "conversions" and simple entertainment for the unconverted at best, and a driving away of sincere "seekers'who recoil at the frivolity and flippacy of Willow Creek-type "presentations" at worst.

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Brother Kurt, I appreciate your caution in not diluting the message of the gospel. The tendency, in some "seeker friendly" groups,is to preach a message that does not offend, which can result in "decisions" without true conversion.IMO,the goal should be to impact the audience with transforming Truth, in a way that is effective and honoring.Love demands that we tell people the truth about man's righteousness, and God's salvation.I often wonder what the puritans would think of our modern "churches" and our seeming desire to live in two worlds.
I am looking forward to watching Rob Bell's DVDs. They sound like they could be very effective in sharing the 24/7 Presence of our Lord.
I do appreciate your view on this subject

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"I often wonder what the puritans would think of our modern "churches" and our seeming desire to live in two worlds."

We have enough writings of the Pilgrims and Puritans to know what they think of compromisers.

Virgil's picture

Ok Kurt :) Thanks for your comment!

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Just a quick note. I ran across this Detroit Free Press article that talks about Rob's work. Very interesting:

http://www.freep.com/news/religion/nooma23e_20050323.htm

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Excellent job, Virgil! I listened to one of Rob's DVDs that was being demo'd at Berean Christian Stores a while back. I thought it was good. This one that you described sounds incredible though. I never knew that the word "yoke" had become a technical term at that time. That makes a lot of sense out of the passage where Jesus talked about his yoke. Very helpful indeed.

I am especially thankful for your emphasis that preterism is nothing if it does not help us to be more like Jesus. Amen! Thanks!

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Jared,

Actually, after I posted this column I watched "Trees" which is just as (if not more) powerful as "Dust." In "Trees" he plants two trees and talks about the tree in Genesis and the tree in Revelation, and how we should not wait around for the tree from Revelation to happen...but we should plant the seeds ourselves. Talk about a powerful Preterist message!

But yes, I am with you. We see all the bickering coming from Preterists that it makes me want to cover my ears and quit. You name it..."so and so is a universalist" or "let's confront universalism" or whatever name-calling is taking place...man, it's junk! It needs to stop! It takes us in the other direction...away from being more like our Rabbi!

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But yes, I am with you. We see all the bickering coming from Preterists that it makes me want to cover my ears and quit. You name it..."so and so is a universalist" or "let's confront universalism" or whatever name-calling is taking place...man, it's junk! It needs to stop! It takes us in the other direction...away from being more like our Rabbi!

Believe me, Virgil, I hear you. I think you and I are cut from the same cloth in many ways. I have been wondering how far we should take our message of tolerance, though. Should we become intolerant of those not as tolerant as us? Do you know what I mean?

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Should we become intolerant of those not as tolerant as us? Do you know what I mean?

Not at all...the message isn't as much about "tolerance of others" as it is about "tolerance of other viewpoints." We can all agree to disagree and then talk about it over a coffee. I mean, is Christianity about converting people to what we believe, or avoiding hell? Come on...we know better than that.

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You are right to be more specific by making the distinction between "tolerance of others" and "tolerance of other viewpoints". Let me rephrase my question... should we be tolerant of other viewpoints which are themselves intolerant towards other viewpoints? Your original statement sounded very intolerant of a viewpoint that, for example, says that universalism must be confronted, which is why I asked the question.

I certainly agree with this: We can all agree to disagree and then talk about it over a coffee. I mean, is Christianity about converting people to what we believe, or avoiding hell? Come on...we know better than that.

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Jared, honestly, I don't want to have anything to do with certain people (and you probably know who I am talking about) that seem to see it absolutely necessary to go on the attack against apparently anyone who sees things differently than them. Is that intolerance? Sure it is, but again, let's not take the way of the social liberals who back themselves into a corner when confronted with the meaning of "tolerance."

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I am not familiar with how social liberals do this. What do you mean?

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I am not familiar with how social liberals do this. What do you mean?

They are afraid of saying anything out of norm that would offend people. i.e. BBC is afraid to use the word "terrorists" to describe the Londom bombers for fear of offending muslims. This is just an example.

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I see. Thanks for that explanation, and for this conversation.

Everlasting's picture

Virgil,
Thankyou so very much for an inspiring article. I could not agree more. I shall make a copy and share it around.
In the Love of Christ.
Everlasting.

Virgil's picture

You really need to watch the video presentation if you have the time - he goes into much more detail concerning the Rabbi-disciple relationship.

vento's picture

Virgil,

This is very interesting, as it really shows how when we can understand the cultural and historical context, like you said, it can really bring things to light for us. Also, I think it is interesting that many futurists will use this kind of information in their teaching in an effort to get some application for us NOW, but they don't seem to apply the audience relevance to areas that would certainly lead them to a preterist view!

Thanks for the info.

Scott

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Scott - actually futurists are having a harder and harder time ignoring the cultural and historical context, and like Rob Bell, they are finding the truth. He already places quite a few of these events in the first century.

ad70lhodges's picture

Virgil,

Wow! What a powerful picture. You are so on target. Thanks for sharing this.

PreteristAD70's picture

I grew up with Rob Bell way back in the '80s. He is the real deal and one of the most genuine guys I know. Raised by a great set of parents. (His dad's a federal judge, last I knew.)

I've been following his career with great interest since seeing an article about him in WORLD Magazine in late 2003. I recently saw his DVDs in my local Christian bookstore, but was somewhat disinterested due to what appears to be a marketing misstep: $15 or so for a short 12-minute video.

However, I haven't had a chance to view them and I'm curious to know if they're actually worth the money. Knowing Rob, they very well might be. I'll just have to check out the website, I guess!

--Mike Beidler

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Mike - I got the whole set in...10 of them. They are all well worth the money, especially if you use them for teaching in a church class. I would not spend that much money on them for just personal use.
I also forgot to mention that he seems to be at least a partial preterist, which is great! We need more people like him to teach scriptural truth. Watch the video linked at the end of my article...it's great.

Islamaphobe's picture

An interesting piece. The old Jewish schools sound uncomfortably like the madrassas of today, but the account of the rabbinical schools helps to remind us of the tremendous capacity for memorization that the Jews of old developed. Since I have always had a stunted capacity for memorization, it pleases me to believe that the ability to commit Scripture to memory is not a mandatory requirement for discipleship.

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