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Fear, Complexity, & Environmental Management in the 21st Century
By Michael Crichton
I am going to challenge you today to revise your thinking, and to reconsider some fundamental assumptions. Assumptions so deeply embedded in our consciousness that we don’t even realize they are there. Here is a map by the artist Tom Friedman, that challenges certain assumptions... Some of you know I have written a book that many people find controversial. It is called State of Fear, and I want to tell you how I came to write it. Because up until five years ago, I had very conventional ideas about the environment and the success of the environmental movement.This is a speech given by Michael Crichton at the Washington Center for Complexity and Public Policy in Washington, D.C. on November 6, 2005. Crichton is the author of State of Fear and several other best-sellers.




Great article!
I live a couple hours from Yellowstone and have seen the historical data concerning the simplistic mismanagement there. Many today argue and lobby to make the same kinds of simplistic mistakes.
Also very good is the point about how the native Indians managed intrusively before the "white man." We had big fires here in Montana in 2000 and many pulled their hair out over them because millions of acres burned. No one talked about how the nomadic Indians would set fire whenever they left one location to move to the next. Sometimes these fires burned until the snows came, gobbling up millions of acres back then. Of course, many idolize the native cultures here and demonize "white men's" management that logs the forests in ways conducive to their health and maintenance. When that was done properly, the forests were not consumed en masse by fires.
The amount of ignorance and ideological folly in our world is truly astonishing.
Thanks for posting this material,
Tim Martin
www.truthinliving.org
Yeah,
A nice speech by a bright writer, which does tend to reorient people more towards reality and away from a "Late Great Planet Earth" mentality.
Peace to you all,
C. Livingstone
Yes, a brilliant speech. Michael Crichton rules!
Is it just me or does anyone else see the beginning of the end of Pessimillenialism. Now if we could just get christians to study apocalyptic literature. I am currently reading by D.S. Russell. It is called "Apocalyptic - Ancient and Modern"
My favorite quote from it thus far is this
"the apocalyptic writers did NOT set themselves to write doctrinal treatises, nor should their works be read as such and their 'truths' applied out of context in a totally different historical situation."
This is the second book of Russell's that I have begun reading. Both are easy to read and very informative. His thoughts are definately well worth the investment.
8) Mike
Well, if this is the case, then Michael Crichton is definitely a good guy to start with. But just like he does, we need to reach a balance when thinking about our environment, and treat it with respect and care (rather than political motivations), something that both the whacko left and the rightwingers lack as far as I can see.
Mike,
Is that the J.S. Russell of the 19th century "Parousia"? Give me some more info on that book and those ideas. They appear relevant to some things I'm working on. Where did you buy that book?
Thanks,
Tim Martin
www.truthinliving.org
No not J.S. Russell...D.S. Russell D D D D He He He
Anyhow I have two of his books that I found in used book stores. I havn't seen anything on Amazon. The one book I have from him(The Method and Message of Jewish Apocalyptic) definately looks like a seminary textbook. The other one as well looks as though it is directed towards a specific audience. In other words not mass marketed. If you can't find either before I get done with the smaller one maybe I can loan it to you. Cause I know how hard it is to find anything good on apocalyptic.
8) Mike
I figured it was a different Russell.
E-mail me through www.truthinliving.org when you get done with it. I'd love to take a peek for a couple weeks or so.
Thanks,
Tim Martin
www.truthinliving.org
Tim,
I would suggest you check out www.abebooks.com. I did a search on their site yesterday and found a bunch of books by D.S. Russell including the one mentioned by Mike. Most of them are used, but for the most part they are inexpensive and according to the descriptions you should be able to find some that are in pretty good condition. Search by author and title. Like I said, I found several titles by Russell including:
1) Apocalyptic: Ancient and Modern
2) The Method and Message of Jewish Apocalyptic
3) Prophecy and the Apocalyptic Dream
4) Between the Testaments
5) Jews from Alexander to Herod
6) From Early Judaism to Early Church
7) Daniel (OT Daily Study Bible Series)
8) Daniel: An Active Volcano: Reflections on the Book of Daniel
Interesting titles. I haven't ordered any of them yet, but I have ordered through abebooks in the past with generally good results. Hope this helps.
Steve
Thanks Steve,
I will follow up on that.
Blessings,
Tim Martin
It seems apparent to me that what Crichton is describing relative to the environment is entirely descriptive of the movements of theology and what is being debated and discussed on PP. I don't think I'm the only one that has concluded that what is going on in Preterist circles, let alone all the sub-sets of christianity definitely falls under the laws of complexity theory.
Within our ranks there are many (no names needed...everyone knows them)that feel they must control things and keep "theological tragedies" from happening. And, shock of shocks, they do so by fear and smear tactics: "Jack how dare you ask that question?" "Virgil, how dare you allow a universalist to speak?" "PP how dare you go to Emergent's meeting?"
I remember when in the discomfort of our Preterist alienation, we had the comfort of knowing all we had to do was reform the churches of Christ. It was a monumnetal task, but one we could "manage." Yea right...! Then the reformed guys came along and learned and stole our eschatology from us, called us Arminian heretics, then acted like we never existed (Sam excluded).
Needless to say all of us once associated with the Living Presence movement quickly realized we couldn't manage or control what was happening. Speaking personally, I no longer have any desire to "manage" or "control" the progress of eschatolgoical evolution because "I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that He is able to keep what I have committed to Him..."
It is obvious to me as I look to the flow of history and the last 40 years of preteristic development that something way beyond our control is in control. With Paul, I am content to say, "Without doubt, great is the mystery of Godliness..." Do those of us who have waited two thousand years for the church to get it right eschatologically (like that's finished...ha)really believe that entertaining questions about the Emergent movement, universalism, or whether predestination and election were confined to the last days firstfruits believers, will lead to the complete meltdown of God's plan?
I, rather, chose to exercise Abraham's faith: "who contrary to hope, in hope believed..." One thing is painfully, yet thrillingly obvious to me now, God, like this world He created for us, is Amazingly resilient, and is working a plan in our time, that predates our time and goes well beyond our time, that all of our wrestlings with Him and each other to understand cannot mitigate. As well, I see any efforts to stem that tide by fear and exclusion comparable to Crichton's assesment of the modern environmental movement.
The theory of complexity he speaks of is not new. If any group of people should understand it should be those of us who have wrestled with all the facets of covenant eschatology, both theological and sociological. How thankful I am that there is a growing number of people such as those here at PP who recognize the need to stop controlling (i.e. manipulating) the flow of history like some effort at stemming the tide. Nothing is more complex than the flow of God's plan through the ages. And I would propose that nothing is more futile than for any one subset of preterists to think they can dam the flow.
My mental and spiritual posture? How thankful I am to be in the kingdom for such a time as this. I realize that I cannot control the flow of human thought; but what I can do is embrace my time and engage in the converstation (i.e. add my two cents) and add to my personal supply of things that enable me to embrace my Father ever more tightly, the many things I have learned from that conversation.
The conversation, with all of its nuances and headches, does not harm me; it illuminates a little more each day the grandest of all complexities: the God of heaven and earth. Along with Crichton I ask, "How about less fear and smear, and more balanced conversation?" The rancoruos debates no longer interest me, the relaxed fireside discussions (for those of you in the lobby of the hotel at TruthVoice last year) sharing of thoughts and ideas hold for me the greatest potential for our cause. I thank God for His grace and patience as our humble efforts move forward!
Jack Scott
Jack,
Thanks for your comments and heartfelt thoughts. New preterists would be wise to give ear to your long experience.
I totally agree with you. In fact, the rancorous debates now turn me off, too. I find it quite ironic that the biggest critic of Virgil and PP is a hard-core Calvinist who ostensbily believes in God's control. Yet, he acts as if it is solely up to him to condemn his preterist brethren here and trot across the whole web to interfere and negate Virgil's efforts. That's a self-contradiction I will never understand.
If God is in complete control of every detail and thought, why get worked up into a lather about these issues? Why teach extreme Calvinism and act like you have to control everything? Could it be that the embrace of Calvinism is more a reflection of a domineering, tyrranical, controlling personality? Could it be that this view of Calvinism simply meshes with that personality? Could it be that some like the control-freak God because they are control-freaks themselves?
Here's the way I see it. Say you disagree and why, then leave it at that. If your arguments are solid they will win the day in the end. If they are weak, they will be exposed as such in the end. Jack, you are right. There is much more going on in the progression of this movement than any of us can fathom, let alone control. I too, believe that God is working all this out for the good in the end. And doing that through the decisions and actions of free individuals has to be one of the most mind-boggling complexities known to man.
Your thoughts are a big encouragement to me. I look forward to spending more time with you in the future,
Blessings,
Tim Martin (who still considers himself "Calvinistic")
www.truthinliving.org
P.S. Virgil, if you are listening, I want you to know that I sense the quality of interraction on this website has spiked off the charts in the last couple of months. Thanks for your efforts on these issues. They have made PP a higher quality place to sit by the fire. Thanks.
Good comments, Tim - I think you're right about the discussions here turning a corner. There are so many issues and so many opinions (interpretations?) that no two can agree on everything. I simply find the exploration fascinating. Exploring subjects on which you agree isn't really exploring, is it???
David William Edwards
Thanks for the comments Tim. Amen to the praise of PP and the overall quality of the discussion taking place. As well, your efforts are an ongoing encouragement to me. I also look forward to more cooperative efforts in the future.
God Bless
Jack Scott
Jack, what an amazing comment...I feel like I would take away from what you said by just answering. :)
You nailed it...Crichton IS describing exactly what is happening withing Preterism today, in a parallel sense that is. His speech is relevant to us both theologically and environmentally (speaking to the complexity of both systems).
Like you, I learned to recognize the huge complexity of what we are involved in. This "thing" is beyond our control...beyond anyone's control, and questions need to be dealt with outside of the political ramifications involved here. Universalists, emergent, post-moderns, jews, muslims...I am here to talk to them and share with them my journey. Sadly, many of the reformed Preterists seem to be unwilling to do so...or give credit where credit is due, now publicly and personally denigrating Max King and all the work he's done in the past several decades.
Thanks for the kind comments Virgil. I gave up worrying about what is said or thought about me by detractors long ago. I agree with your comments about Max. I will always treasure the seven years that I spent intimately working and socializing with Max. Some of my fondest memories are of hunting with Max in West Virginia. While I do not presently agree with Max's position (at least what I know of it), I eagerly await his upcoming book so that I can carefully study what in fact he is saying in his own words. I consistently tell everyone who asks me about Max, two things: one, I think he is probably one of the greatest theological minds of our time, and two, even though I may disagree with him, I will always listen carefully and respectfully to what he has to say. I do not fear giving him or anyone else the right to share what their studied opinions are. Neither do I fear what will happen to the cause of God if Max, Jack or Virgil are right or wrong about any aspect of God's truth. His kingdom will stand. The sad irony is that all of those who have personally attacked me from within preterism have themselves held convictions at times that were "outside the norm." They are always capable of seeing how these differences should not be determinative for fellowship. But let someone else's questions arise and out comes the heresy accusation. Thank heaven most are seeing beyond this and desirous of open dialogue and investigation. Keep up the good work.
God Bless
Jack Scott
Jack, I feel the same too..I gave up even trying to reason with some of these people. Maybe the future holds something better for our movement...who knows, but afterall is not even "our" movement anyways, so who goes to say that Preterism will even be around in 50 years? I am starting to meet "preterists" pretty much everywhere now, and guess what? They never even heard of Preterism! That is why I am so encouraged by what Emergent is doing and their openness to fulfilled prophecy.
And I am also very much looking forward to Max's book! See you in June! :)
Jack, that was awesome . . . you put in intelligible words exactly what was rushing through my mind when I read Chrichton's speech, that is, how this all applies in a practical sense to our present reality in the fullness of God's presence.
How comforting is to know that our efforts, "successes" and failures all serve God's purposes in the end. We usually measure our "successes" in such a linear fashion, a lot like how one figures who's the winning team in a sports event. God's message, however, is complex. It's absolutely based on what He has done, and those who listen to His voice walk in that bountiful realization.
Thanks for pouring out your heart and thoughts, blessed in His rest,
Alexander Rodríguez
Alexander, thanks for the kind comments! The efforts of some preterist sub-sets to control the movemant, conversation, writings, seminars, etc. is like what I watched and participated in in my own denominational background. The "conservatives" sought to control all thought and expression by fear and slander tactics. People will live under that yoke for only so long before they rebel. Sure enough, within that movement that "conservative" element is now so marginalized as to be irrelevant. I see the same trend in covenant eschatology, only at warp speed. The reason these would-be "prelates" of preterism are being marginalized and rejected so quickly, is that virtually all of us have come out of similar circumstances, where those over us and around us sought to control us using the same measures; we've rejected it there and we reject it more so here. My message to them is simple, there is nothing you can say about me or do to me (short of kill me) that hasn't already been done in spades. Such efforts are sad and laughable, betray a lack of understanding of the heart of their/our view, and is happily being rejected by most thoughtful people. I will continue to labor with and support those entities and people like PP that are providing such a great and sacrificial service for the cause of truth and the kingdom on earth.
Thank you for pouring out your heart and all your efforts. Together we can do our part to further marginalize unbalanced attackers and show a better way!
God Bless!
I love this quote for the speech: "At any moment there are 1,500 electrical storms on the planet. A tornado touches down every six hours. We have ninety hurricanes a year, or one every four days. Again, right on schedule. Violent, disruptive, chaotic activity is a constant feature of our globe.
Is this the end of the world? No: this is the world."