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Answering a 'Replacement Theology' critic

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By Virgil - Posted on 07 December 2009

by Gary DeMar

“My primary problem with the Preterist view,” Robert Heidler, a graduate of Dallas Theological Seminary writes, “is that it is a blatant example of replacement theology.” If you want to end a debate over eschatology when you can’t make a cogent biblical case for your position, just charge your opponent with holding to replacement theology. What is “replacement theology,” sometimes called “supersessionism”? Here’s a typical dispensational definition:Replacement Theology: a theological perspective that teaches that the Jews have been rejected by God and are no longer God’s Chosen People. Those who hold to this view disavow any ethnic future for the Jewish people in connection with the biblical covenants, believing that their spiritual destiny is either to perish or become a part of the new religion that superseded Judaism (whether Christianity or Islam).[1]

“Replacement theology” is dispensationalism’s trump card in any debate over eschatology because it implies anti-semitism. Hal Lindsey attempted to pull this card from the bottom of the deck in his poorly researched book The Road to Holocaust.[2] He wove an innovative tale implying that anyone who is not a dispensationalist carries the seeds of anti-semitism within his or her prophetic system. This would mean that every Christian prior to 1830 would have been theologically anti-semitic.

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chrisliv's picture

Yeah,

Gary DeMar is a friend to the Preterist position, and he calls himself a non-Dispensationalist.

But Gary is still a Futurist, I'm fairly sure.

Gary did a good job of refuting the Replacement Theology accusation which Dispensationalists often level at Preterists, even sometimes calling us anti-Semitic, falsely.

But Gary refutes the false accusation of the Dispensationalists while simultaneously accepting their same false premise of The Israel of God being based on Genetics and Geography.

We see in DeMar's title graphic, coupled with an Israeli State flag, the word's:

"It's Dispensationalists who hold to a form of Replacement Theology, since they believe that Israel does not have any prophetic significance, this side of the [so-called] Rapture."

Well, I think all Full Preterists also believe that Genetic Jews/Israelite descendants "have no prophetic significance" beyond 70 AD, when, like Christ prophesied, "their House would be left Desolate" literally and covenantally speaking.

That's not anti-Semitic. That's in the Bible, at Matthew 24.

To believe that Jewish/Israelite DNA is something that God always craved above all others, and has somehow frustrated God for all these generation since 70 AD, by them continuing to reject Christ Jesus as Messiah, really suggests that God believes in Jewish Supremacy and that God suffers from Schizophrenia, and that He will one day cure Himself of same by finally getting His "fix" of at least a large percentage of one generation of Jewish DNA to believe in Christ.

That is the nonsense of Dispensationalism and Futurism.

The carnal-minded premise and fallacy revolves around the false idea that "True Israel" is based on Jewish/Israelite DNA and that the OT Promises to "Genetic/Geographical Israel" are still left unfulfilled, which is one of the bigger lies of Dispensationalism, and easily refuted from the Old and New Testament pages.

I'll list how the Bible clearly declares that Genetic and Geographic Israel got everything God promised them, before they broke their limited covenant, and they ultimately incurred the curse that that covenant demanded.

The Bible teaches that there is an "Israel" of Faith and an "Israel" of Genetics, who "murdered the Prophets that God sent to them". And, how the Promise and Blessing was made, not to those lucky enough to possess Jewish DNA, but those who, like the Mesopotamian pagan, Abraham, believed God.

Apostle Paul articulates this point pretty well, at Romans 9:

6 ¶ Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL [of Faith], WHICH ARE OF ISRAEL [by Jewish DNA]:

7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham [in the plural, genetic sense], are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

8 THAT IS, THEY WHICH ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FLESH, THESE ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

That's the Good News!

God is not a Schizophrenic, and He doesn't require a superior Jewish pedigree to be His Chosen People.

That's why the OT prophetic scriptures always suggested that "only a Remnant [of Genetic Israelites] would be saved [i.e. be part of True Israel]." And why Paul quote Hosea, at Romans, that God would "call them My People, who were not my People."

You see, God was never frustrated or surprised by the Jews rejecting Christ. He anticipated it, and I'm sure the Jews rarely quoted those verses from the OT.

Maybe I'm mistaken by this paragraph of DeMar's, but his middle sentence may leave the door open for him accepting the false of the Dispensationalists, too:

"According to Schuyler and every other dispensationalist, the Church has replaced Israel until the rapture. THE UNFULFILLED PROMISES MADE TO ISRAEL ARE NOT FULFILLED UNTIL AFTER THE CHURCH IS TAKEN OFF THE EARTH. Thomas Ice, one of dispensationalism’s popular writers, admits that the Church replaces Israel this side of the rapture: “We dispensationalists believe that the church has superseded Israel during the current church age, but God has a future time in which He will restore national Israel ‘as the institution for the administration of divine blessings to the world.’”[5]

So, does DeMar also believe that Genetic Jews have "unfulfilled promises", but are just waiting to be fulfilled in a slightly different Futurist sequence than the Dispensationalists say?

That's a fair question!

No, the Promise and Blessing to Humanity, made to Adam and Eve, was the Original Covenant, prophetically speaking, that SEED of the Woman would crush the Head of the Serpent.

That was the Abrahamic Covenant, too, that through the Singular SEED [Christ, we're told, at Gal. 3:16, and not by a carnal-minded Plurality of Jewish DNA centered on a strip of Middle Eastern Sand], that all Families of the Earth would be Blessed, through Faith, being Justified by the finished work of Christ and walking in a dimension of the Holy Spirit.

That's the Promised Land that Abraham looked forward to, and it was the reason he lived in tents and wouldn't even build a house in Canaan Land. Don't take my word for that, read it in the Bible, especially in the NT book of Hebrews, which interprets the OT better than the OT interprets itself.

You see, the pre-Israelite OT Scripture and the NT Scripture agree, without any consideration for pedigree or Jewish DNA:

Galatians 3:14 "That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith."

Dispensationalists really seem to resist Christian Theology from the pages of the NT, and rather seem to prefer carnal-minded interpretation of Jewish Supremacy in a Futuristic Global Dictatorship, which is one of the same reasons that the ancient Jews of Christ's time handed Him over to the Roman State, to be murdered/executed by crucifixion.

Jewish people today are like all others, no better, and no worse. We should pray from them as much as Armenians, for God to open their hearts and minds, to come out of spiritual darkness, and into the glorious Light of Christ's fully-estalbished Kingdom, on Earth today, much like it apparently is in Heaven.

Peace to you all,
C. Livingstone
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1 Kings 8:56 Blessed be the LORD, that hath given rest unto his people Israel, according to all that he promised: there hath not failed one word of all his good promise, which he promised by the hand of Moses his servant.

Josh. 21:43 And the LORD gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein.

1 Chron. 13:5 So David gathered all Israel together, from Shihor of Egypt even unto the entering of Hemath [from Nile River to the Euphrates], to bring the ark of God from Kirjathjearim.

2 Sam. 8:3 David smote also Hadadezer, the son of Rehob, king of Zobah, as he went to recover his border at the river Euphrates.

1 Chron. 18:3 And David smote Hadarezer king of Zobah unto Hamath, as he went to stablish his dominion by the river Euphrates.

1 Kings 8:65 And at that time Solomon held a feast, and all Israel with him, a great congregation, from the entering in of Hamath unto the river of Egypt, before the LORD our God, seven days and seven days, even fourteen days.

Jer. 32:21 And hast brought forth thy people Israel out of the land of Egypt with signs, and with wonders, and with a strong hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with great terror;
22 And hast given them this land, which thou didst swear to their fathers to give them, a land flowing with milk and honey;
23 And they came in, and possessed it; but they obeyed not thy voice, neither walked in thy law; they have done nothing of all that thou commandedst them to do: therefore thou hast caused all this evil to come upon them:

Neh. 9:7 Thou art the LORD the God, who didst choose Abram, and broughtest him forth out of Ur of the Chaldees, and gavest him the name of Abraham;
8 And foundest his heart faithful before thee, and madest a covenant with him to give the land of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Jebusites, and the Girgashites, to give it, I say, to his seed, and hast performed thy words; for thou art righteous:

Neh. 9:23 Their children also multipliedst thou as the stars of heaven, and broughtest them into the land, concerning which thou hadst promised to their fathers, that they should go in to possess it.
24 So the children went in and possessed the land, and thou subduedst before them the inhabitants of the land, the Canaanites, and gavest them into their hands, with their kings, and the people of the land, that they might do with them as they would.

1 Kings 4:20 ¶ Judah and Israel were many, as the sand which is by the sea in multitude, eating and drinking, and making merry.
21 And Solomon reigned over all kingdoms from the river unto the land of the Philistines, and unto the border of Egypt: they brought presents, and served Solomon all the days of his life.

2 Chron. 1:9 Now, O LORD God, let thy promise unto David my father be established: for thou hast made me king over a people like the dust of the earth in multitude.

NOW PAY ATTENTION HERE, IT'S THE NEW TESTAMENT INTERPRETATION TO HOW THE LAND AND THE GENETICS WERE FULFILLED, BUT WERE NOT WHAT GOD WAS ULTIMATELY POINTING TOWARD, NOR WHAT ABRAHAM TRUELY UNDERSTOOD AS "THE PROMISES":

Hebrews 11:12 Therefore sprang there even of one, and him [Abraham] as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable.
13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises [but we saw that they did receive the promises in the PLURAL SENSE regarding geography and genetics], even though Judah and Israel broke the OLD Covenant], but having seen them afar off [Christ's Kingdom and Life IN the Holy Spirit], and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth [specifically in the so-called Holy Land].
14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country [not Judea or Israel].
15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.
16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city {a New Jerusalem, in a Dimension of the Holy of the Spirit].

Gal. 3:16 Now to Abraham and his Seed [singular] were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds [i.e., NOT genetic DESCENDANTS], as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ [and those who are IN CHRIST, spiritually speaking, not genetically speaking].
17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
19 ¶ Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

chrisliv's picture

Or,

I suppose a quicker way to make my point would be to suggest that, in "answering a 'Replacement Theology' critic", would be to not simultaneously accept their false premise that God is a Racist or that His Covenant with Humanity began at Mount Sinai.

You see, that's a more serious and twisted Replacement Theology fallacy, which is made by most Futurists even while they accuse others of what they're guilty of, i.e., that Jewish DNA was ever preeminent in the mind of God or a basis for His love.

But, that's the kind of carnal-minded nonsense that Dispensationalism and most forms of Futurism calls for [not all A-Millenialists are so carnal-minded, though].

Peace to you all,
C. Livingstone

chrisliv's picture

And,

It occurred to me further, that the reason Apostle Paul, a former Pharisee himself, was so hounded by the Pharisees after his conversion, was that they must of also felt like Paul was promoting a kind of Replacement Theology, in which Jewish DNA and Geography was meaningless.

I mean, it must have been very threatening for the ancient Jews to hear that if they were to have anything to do with Messiah's Kingdom, that they had to be washed, spiritually speaking, in baptism (like John the Baptist was suggesting), must like a dirty Gentile proselyte who wished to join the Genetic Congregation of Israel.

Simply appalling!

You see, Apostle Paul was publicly and powerfully pointing out, from the Scripture, that the ancient idea of a monopoly on relationship with God, on the basis of Jewish DNA, was completely false.

Heresy!

Stone that man!

Of course they resisted The Gospel, and must have seen it as a form of Replacement Theology, also.

But, the ancient Jews, like Dispensationalists today, were carnal-minded and mistaken about God putting Jewish DNA up on a pedestal in the first place.

So, any accusations of "Replacement Theology" rests on a flawed biblical foundation.

Peace to you all,
C. Livingstone

Virgil's picture

Yes I agree to an extent but I also see Gary's objections. The bottom line is that most of the critics of Preterism have no idea what they are criticizing, they do not understand what Preterism is all about and they mostly have knee-jerk reactions to what they hear.

chrisliv's picture

Yeah,

I think you're right, Virgil. There's no truly good criticism of the Preterist position, because it's the best game in town, so to speak, even if it's not the most popular one.

Peace to you,
C. Livingstone

chrisliv's picture

Wow,

I just took another look at Gary's website at this article, and it's not apparent that there is any comments or feedback to the article there. But there is. You just have to click on the "View Replies" to see that there are some!

Anyway, it was a pleasant surprise to see how bright some of the feedback was there.

And, where has the traffic and feedback gone lately, here at Planet Preterist?

Peace to you all,
C. Livingstone

Virgil's picture

Honestly I don't have time for this stuff anymore...I'd be happy to see some people step up and help out with the site and maintain the content like I used to do it. Unfortunately it takes time and effort to maintain a decent website and I just don't have either anymore. :)

chrisliv's picture

Yeah,

I don't blame you one bit, Virgil. You've maintained this complex site very well for a long time.

Peace,
Christian

Barry's picture

Amen to that!
Virgil great job really! A real blessing!
Barry

we are all in this together

Mick's picture

What needs to be done to help?
I do not have much time either, but I would like to help if I can. Just this last week I suggested somebody spend some time here reading the basic articles on preterism, which are the best anywhere. So consider me someone to who you may delegate some responsibilities.

Mick

Mickey E. Denen

Virgil's picture

Content is the primary driver - people writing and submitting articles; I don't really have time anymore to hunt down good stuff. Also I am working with a couple of people on redesigning the site...assuming we'll find the time to do it, it will be a really nice leap to something better :)

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