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Does Mormonism teach Historical Preterism?

This past Sunday, for the Gospel Doctrine class that I teach in our ward, the lesson was on Matthew 24 and entailed about the coming of Christ. As I prepared for this lesson, much of the information brought me back to those days when I was outside of the Latter-day Saint faith, and when I had began studying about Preterism.

The Biblical Nature of Hoppean Monarchism

by Ryan Bassett
Hans Hermann Hoppe has been widely recognized for stating the advantages of a traditional monarchy over that of what is essentially mob rule, that is, Democracy. While it is true that Hans Hoppe is not a monarchist but rather an anarcho-capitalist his insights into the frailties and destructive nature of Democracy are thorough and convincing. His brilliant work, Democracy: The God That Failed, is to date probably his best scholarly work on the subject.

Covenant Preterism

Hello all,

I wanted to invite everyone to Covenant Preterism, a new Ning site for Preterists to gather and discuss various tenets within the view, and have access to interact with those opposing our view as well. Please come by!


Rob Bell and the Judgmentless “Gospel”: Holy Love Wins

By Trevin Wax
In 2003, I was a college student in Romania in need of some encouragement from pastors and teachers back in the U.S. An American pastor friend of mine recommended I listen to the preaching of two pastors: Rob Bell and James MacDonald. (Amazing that just eight years ago the ministries of these two men were seen as complementing each another!)

I downloaded dozens of Rob’s sermons from his early years at Mars Hill. I liked his preaching style and enjoyed his sermons from Leviticus. His most memorable message, “The Goat Has Left the Building,” ended with a powerful illustration of the truth that Christ bears our sins


Sam Frost makes it Official "He has Left Full Preterism"

Sam Frost has now made it public that he has indeed left Full Preterism officially. Sam didn’t really have to tell many of us as we have seen his partial Preterism tendencies for years. Sam values his influence over those who are conflicted along with him on how to rightly divide the full Preterist hermeneutic and will continue to offer those who haven’t fully grasped the full Preterist hermeneutic refuge under his wings. I expect Sam will begin setting himself up as the alternative approach to full Preterism so that he may rescue the conflicted for Reformed orthodoxy. I don't believe we have heard the last of Sam Frost in full Preterist circles.

The Destruction of the Temple and the End of the World

On his website Andrew Perriman explores the connection between the fall of the temple and the so called "End of the World" anticipated by some first century believers. While Andrew does not endorse full Preterism or this website, his writing can be a valuable tool for exploring understanding of first century prophetic fulfillment.

What Is the Meaning of “Shortly Come to Pass”?

by Wayne Jackson

“What is the meaning of the expression ‘shortly come to pass,’ found in Revelation 1:1?”

The final book of the New Testament begins in this fashion. “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show unto his servants, even the things which must shortly come to pass?” (1:1a).

The phrase, “must shortly come to pass,” translates the Greek dei genesthai en tachei. Of special interest is the term tachei. This word, together with several cognate forms, expresses various shades of meaning.

Is Modern-Day Israel a Fulfillment of Bible Prophecy?

Jim Fletcher says yes, and Gary DeMar says no! So much of modern-day prophetic thinking hinges on the question. Israel becoming a nation again in 1948 has been a mainstay of Bible prophecy writers. Dispensational Premillennialists use the reestablishment of Israel as support for their claim that we are living in the “last days” and make up the “terminal generation.” In the final analysis, the question can only be answered by an appeal to the Bible. This debate will take place on June 19 in Powder Springs, GA.

Don Prestons 5 Part Daleville, Alabama Lecture Series!!!

The complete audio collection of Don Prestons lecture series that he was originally going to deliver in Daleville, Alabama is now posted and available for download on one page.

It's no wonder more people don't debate Don Preston. 8)


Why I reject Preterism

So, is it bad when someone spends time writing a huge message titled (in all caps) WHY I REJECT PRETERISM and the answer to the message is, "What is Preterism?"

Best and funniest exchange ever:

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Crack the Sky

by Ira at Irritable Reaching
I'm not sure what it is we're not doing any more that's been supplanted by eschatology. Some ancient cultures believed that the world would never end, and this seems as well to have been part of early Hebrew thinking. This changed with the experience of exile, as they cried out that something had to give and implored their God to intervene. They seem to have found some of the mythology of their Persian oppressors useful and appropriated apocalyptic rhetoric to make sense of their own situation. Later, the expressions used by a particular apocalyptic sect (that of one Jesus of Nazareth) would be picked up by the wider culture and combined with Greek teleology, becoming more and more what we would recognize today as eschatology.

Response to Frost

by Jerel Kratt
This paper is a response to Sam Frost’s Review (hereafter, “Frost”) of my initial paper which critiqued his view of “world” and “heavens and earth” in 2 Peter 3. I appreciate Frost’s willingness to dialogue with me and his extension of philadelphia to me. As his brother in Christ by faith, I would expect no less of him regardless of whether we agreed or disagreed on this matter. Still, it sets an audience at ease when two men can discuss disagreements without slander, sarcasm, or misrepresentation. For the most part, this was achieved in Frost’s response to me.

He Came In Like Manner

By William H. Bell, Jr.
To some, several passages have been more difficult to interpret within the A.D. 70
framework of time than others. One such passage is Acts 1:9-11. “Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, he was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold two men stood by them in white apparel, who also said, Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into Heaven.” Briefly, we want to study three major points in this passage. (1) the cloud coming, (2) the same Jesus, and (3) in like manner. Our purpose is to honor the very words of Christ while also showing the inconsistency and contradictions in the literalistic, futuristic/ammillennial view of this text. Acts 1:9-11 fits perfectly within the A.D. 70 framework for Christ’s return. First, the Old Covenant usage of the cloud coming of God symbolized divine presence in judgment. “The burden against Egypt. Behold, the Lord rides on a swift cloud, and will come into Egypt; the idols of Egypt will totter at His presence, and the heart of Egypt will melt in its midst. (Isaiah 19:1).

Reasons NOT to look like the early church

[Cynics and Christians] divide and upset the household, and bring into collision those inside with each other, and tell them the worst ways to manage their household. They never say, find, or do anything socially productive.

The Early Church and Bible Prophecy

Gary DeMar

The Early Church and the End of the World by Gary DeMar and Francis Gumerlock asks this fundamental question: "What did the earliest of the early Christian writers actually believe about prophetic events?" We can only answer this question by studying what they wrote. Unfortunately, we do not have a complete record of the period. Many of their surviving works are only fragments of larger works no longer available to us. To make an historical investigation even more difficult, there are translation issues. Many of the works of those who wrote just before the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 and beyond have not been translated into English.

The History of Preterism and Futurism: Poisoning the Well

by Gary DeMar
The following is a response to a critic of preterism named Darrell Myatt. While I’ve answered many of the objections he raises here and here, I wanted to discuss his opening statement about the origin of preterism. Futurists, mostly dispensational premillennialists, claim that their position has historical pedigree. The majority of the early church fathers are said to have been premillennialists.

The Right to Heresy

by Virgil Vaduva
He killed fifty-seven people; banished seventy-six. Confiscated property of political and theological enemies; took power by public revolt and despotism; he ruled with an iron fist. Iste Gallusthat Frenchman – was the first reference to him in official books and records of Geneva, but his name was Jehan Calvin; an incredible attorney, stellar theologian, a tyrant and a murderer.

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